17:35:25 <raub> #startmeeting 17:35:25 <Tribot> Meeting started Mon Mar 22 17:35:25 2021 UTC. The chair is raub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:35:25 <Tribot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:35:35 <raub> #chair bdmc jeoff 17:35:35 <Tribot> Current chairs: bdmc jeoff raub 17:35:46 <raub> #topic 1. Check for Agenda Additions 17:36:12 <raub> I will assume nothing 17:36:17 <raub> #topic 2. Current Topics 17:36:23 <bdmc> I keep wondering whether I should just stay silent unless no, or say No. 17:36:33 <bdmc> ( unless yes ) 17:36:42 <raub> bdmc: don't ask me complicate questions 17:36:50 <bdmc> B-) 17:37:09 <raub> So, I know bdmc has been doing a lot of work on the pilot upgrade, primarily on IPv6 17:37:28 <bdmc> Off and on. Looking for other people, too. 17:37:38 <raub> Since I suck at that, I conned Kevin to help out 17:38:37 <raub> I should be able to look into some things today befor e8pm 17:38:44 <bdmc> As I said in our e-mail conversation, I was just trying to put together a basic server, with connectivity, with that leading into the task-specific machines. 17:38:45 <raub> (or after 9pm) 17:39:02 <bdmc> I am available for both. 17:39:03 <raub> bdmc: I can help you with an IPv4 server 17:39:36 <bdmc> As far as I can see, that mainly involves configuring, or re-configuring, Moya. 17:40:23 <bdmc> However, we don't want to touch Pilot's IPv4 access. 17:40:40 <raub> Hmmm, let me try it on my own given what I have found on how moya is doing the network 17:40:42 <bdmc> We could, conceivably, change Moya, as long as the DNS resolves. 17:41:08 <raub> I would like to keep moya an dpilot untouched for testing 17:41:11 <bdmc> Since Pilot is the DNS server, that shouldn't be hard. 17:41:45 <raub> Technically, moya allocated the IPs for the VMs internally 17:41:48 <bdmc> As long as untouched allows us to use other addresses. 17:42:13 <bdmc> Right, but those addresses have to work in the DNS, too. 17:42:18 <raub> That is the plan. Just do some quick port forwarding when it is time to access externally 17:43:00 <bdmc> Which means that you do not intend to allocate any of the other available IPv4 addresess. 17:43:09 <raub> Exactly 17:43:38 <bdmc> Just pile everything on to the same one address. 17:43:44 <raub> A later step can be that. Right now have host up and running 17:44:36 <bdmc> It appears that "Pilot2" is running, but I don't think that we can access it in any way. 17:45:35 <bdmc> I think that my "rygel" can be reached with IPv4. 17:46:12 <raub> K. I just want to know what I should be working it, if you have rygel up and running 17:47:09 <bdmc> I should be able to give you an account ( and sudo ) on that, if you like. 17:48:52 <bdmc> Nope. Only from Moya. ( 192.168.122.11 ) 17:49:23 <raub> That is OK. Let me spool one small vm up 17:49:41 <bdmc> root@moya:/home/bdmc# arp 17:49:41 <bdmc> Address HWtype HWaddress Flags Mask Iface 17:49:44 <bdmc> 192.168.122.4 ether 52:54:00:15:47:c5 C br-guest 17:49:47 <bdmc> 192.168.122.226 ether 52:54:00:85:a9:a4 C br-guest 17:49:50 <bdmc> 192.168.122.6 (incomplete) br-guest 17:49:53 <bdmc> 208.79.82.65 ether 2c:21:72:90:54:01 C eth0 17:49:56 <bdmc> 208.79.82.67 (incomplete) eth0 17:49:59 <bdmc> 192.168.122.11 ether 52:54:00:15:47:c5 C br-guest 17:50:02 <bdmc> 192.168.122.152 (incomplete) br-guest 17:50:05 <bdmc> 192.168.122.3 ether 52:54:00:f7:1c:5f C br-guest 17:50:08 <bdmc> root@moya:/home/bdmc# 17:50:54 <raub> There seems to be a lot of them 17:51:11 <bdmc> raub: Are you going to create your own config ( xml ) file, or? 17:51:33 <raub> Can create it on the fly 17:51:46 <bdmc> root@moya:/home/bdmc# virsh list 17:51:47 <bdmc> setlocale: No such file or directory 17:51:47 <bdmc> Id Name State 17:51:47 <bdmc> ---------------------------------------------------- 17:51:47 <bdmc> 2 pilot.trilug.org running 17:51:49 <bdmc> 50 rygel running 17:51:51 <bdmc> 52 Pilot2 running 17:52:08 <bdmc> Using virt-manager, or virsh edit, or? 17:52:39 <raub> I think virt-manager 17:54:16 <bdmc> Good luck. 17:54:31 <raub> Danke 17:54:43 <bdmc> I have just created you an account on rygel. passwd = passwd. 17:55:11 <raub> Now I need to login before somebody does. ;) 17:55:16 <bdmc> B-) 17:55:32 <bdmc> Just log in to Moya, and go from there. 17:55:36 <raub> K 17:56:04 <bdmc> In case I didn't say it, there doesn't seem to be any response from outside. 17:56:28 <bdmc> That is the IPv4 configuration that I was talking about. 17:56:35 <bdmc> Not to mention IPv6. 17:56:37 <raub> K 17:58:18 <bdmc> Just send me a text message tonight if I can be of any assistance, or for testing, or anything you like. I may not be right up-to-date on e-mail. 17:58:45 <raub> Will do. I want to see if what I have in mind works, then I will send you info to replicate (and verify) 17:59:37 <bdmc> Sounds good. As I think that I said, I used the Dargo config, slightly modified, for Rygel, and it worked to install a current Debian. 18:00:05 <raub> OK. Is the debian iso in moya or remote? 18:00:11 <bdmc> In 18:00:53 <bdmc> I have moved it in to /root 18:01:10 <raub> K 18:01:20 <raub> I will probably try after the meeting 18:01:27 <bdmc> File name the same, path different. 18:01:33 <raub> K 18:05:14 <bdmc> There is also a Ubuntu 18-04 Live Server in root, but I would recommend against that, with all of the trouble that Matt was having. 18:05:21 <raub> jeoff: still need blurb for talk 18:05:51 <bdmc> Did we drive him away? 18:06:00 * raub shrugs 18:06:34 <raub> Well, in that case we migth end meeting. I will ping him by email. 18:06:40 <raub> But, we do need more talks 18:06:47 <jeoff> still here. I'll get that to you tonight 18:06:52 <jeoff> Have a lot more free time now 18:06:55 <raub> jeoff: K 18:07:09 <bdmc> True. Anything queued up after Jeoff? 18:07:20 <raub> bdmc: not a single thing 18:07:43 <bdmc> Oops. I don't imagine that "movie night" would work. 18:07:51 <raub> Nope 18:08:29 <bdmc> Perhaps we could talk about some kind of round table or something, history or some other topic. 18:08:47 <bdmc> Some other topic: Hints and Kinks. 18:09:07 <raub> Something. Also, members did ask for more how-to meetings 18:10:15 <bdmc> Some other topic: Hmmm. BASH for beginners; GIMP for beginners; SSH tricks? ( Alan might have some things ) 18:10:33 <raub> Yep. We may need to ask him if he is game 18:11:16 <bdmc> I know: Snobol for you! 18:11:49 <bdmc> Or: Hello World in 10 languages. 18:12:10 <bdmc> Or 100. 18:13:30 <raub> Unless you want to do it, no for 100 18:13:37 <bdmc> B-) 18:14:23 <bdmc> Years ago, and probably somewhere in storage, I had a book that described languages from A to Z. ( at the time ) 18:15:06 <bdmc> It was blue. 18:16:17 <bdmc> I remember JOSS, JQL, Jovial. 18:18:35 <raub> In any case, anything else we should cover? 18:20:07 <bdmc> Not that I can think of. 18:20:47 <raub> Alright then. Let me see if I can do some progress right now and we will reconvene 18:21:00 <bdmc> See you when you want me. 18:21:19 <bdmc> I'm available for the rest of the day. 18:21:21 <raub> I will answer that when I have made progress 18:22:04 <bdmc> Toodles. 18:22:22 <raub> Alright then 18:22:24 <raub> #nedmeeting 18:22:28 <raub> #endmeeting