17:32:59 <raub> #startmeeting
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17:33:12 <raub> #chair bdmc noway2
17:33:12 <Tribot> Current chairs: bdmc noway2 raub
17:33:35 <raub> #topic 1. check for agenda additions
17:33:51 <noway2> none
17:34:02 <bdmc> Nothing I can think of.
17:34:05 <raub> K
17:34:08 <raub> #topic 2. current topics
17:34:30 <raub> I was not in last week's meeting. What was decided for the talk topic this week?
17:35:02 <noway2> I don't recall.
17:35:25 <bdmc> We didn't have a meeting.  Jeff shut it down before we started.
17:35:36 <raub> Lovely
17:36:11 <bdmc> Said something about talking over e-mail.  I didn't see any of that.
17:36:14 <raub> Well, we need something. bdmc, having a discussion event is fairgame at this point
17:36:55 <noway2> That might be a good idea. With everything being remote, it's lacked a lot of the social interaction.
17:37:03 <bdmc> OK, thoughts on topics?
17:37:21 <raub> (I just realized I had its date for Friday; will edt that after meeting)
17:37:58 <raub> bdmc: I got nothing to offer
17:38:11 <noway2> Here's an idea or the start of one. There has been a lot of change in the main Linux distro world, with the big three Cannonical, Red Hat, and Suse.... how has it effected you, how are you adapting, what do you see going forward?
17:38:14 <bdmc> 30th anniversary?
17:38:34 <bdmc> noway2: that's a good idea
17:38:53 <raub> I am game.
17:39:03 <raub> But I could use some kind of blurb
17:39:47 <bdmc> I liked Matt's description as a start.
17:40:10 <raub> Can anyone write a paragraph or two and/or slap it in the meetup/website? DOn't forget the date is off
17:41:27 <noway2> I can try to write something up. I could likely get something up on the website, but would undoubtledy do it not in the manner it was meant to be done.
17:41:53 <raub> noway2: if you can't just email me
17:42:08 <raub> I can show how to do it later, if it is not in the wiki
17:42:14 <noway2> Ok.  Speaking of email, did you get the one I sent you to your and from mine edumacational email?
17:42:34 <bdmc> Or we could take a stab at it here, quickly.
17:43:01 <noway2> Well, lets start with the change of Red Hat.  What's been the fallout, what's the future?
17:43:56 <raub> Sure
17:44:09 <bdmc> Hmmm.  I was thinking that you were going to just throw out that general statement and see where the conversation goes.
17:44:31 <noway2> Might be good to introduce a nugget or two for thought seeds
17:44:32 <raub> bdmc: as I said, I am open
17:44:50 <raub> noway2: could start generic and then throw something on the floor
17:47:42 <bdmc> Right, in the meeting.  But as far as the "Meeting announcement," I would go with what you started with, or a bit more.
17:47:44 <noway2> I just scanned through this article, looking for ideas.  It discusses that the move to Centos Stream was based on the idea of converting the user base into paying customers. Its a gambit. https://www.servethehome.com/red-hat-goes-full-ibm-and-says-farewell-to-centos/
17:48:21 <raub> If you want to steal a few links, http://unixwars.blogspot.com/2020/12/yet-another-post-on-demise-of-centos.html
17:49:20 <noway2> Obviously, there is a hard push to commercialize linux and for some unspoken reason apparently the "community" version is perceived as a threat. At least that is my take on it.
17:52:32 <bdmc> Sounds like we have a meeting.
17:53:09 <raub> Well then!
17:54:32 <raub> Let's see if we can get this out today
17:54:38 <raub> Moving on, elections
17:54:51 <raub> I suggest to move to next month so we have mor etime
17:54:57 <noway2> Have there been any nominations?
17:55:32 <raub> Nope
17:57:08 <bdmc> I think that we will need to push that idea this month, and then, as you suggest, hold the actual election next week.
17:57:38 <raub> Exactly
17:58:58 <bdmc> We should have a dozen or so members, unless this topic grabs people.
17:59:18 <noway2> It may. it may not.
17:59:33 <noway2> But what's happening in the Linux world will impact them.
17:59:33 <bdmc> I like it.  I don't have a lot to say about it, but....
18:00:12 <bdmc> There's also the Linux World and the Corporate Linux World.
18:00:47 <bdmc> I was surprised that NOBODY commented on my mention of the 30th anniversary in the mailing list a month or more ago.
18:01:40 <raub> A lot of members are in passive mode. And we have not done much about creating interest
18:02:18 <noway2> Your right. I remember sitting at a restaurant listenign to a college professor of my circuits class talking about a guy writing the Linux kernel for x86 processors.
18:02:22 <noway2> It was about 1991
18:07:32 <bdmc> Oh!  I see that it is after 2 ( 1400 ).  Have you gone, Mauricio?
18:08:07 <noway2> Looks like it.
18:10:38 <bdmc> Oh, well.  Are you involved with the Pilot upgrade, at the moment?
18:11:58 <noway2> Not at the moment.  I was still at the state of wondering about the ipv6 which i couldn't get working and the conflict with the HE tunnel and then it went to ansible, which I don't know much about.
18:13:27 <raub> I am in my othger meeting
18:13:38 <noway2> shall we end this one then?
18:13:40 <bdmc> OK.  Yes, I don't know where things are, at the moment.  I think that Jeff and Mauricio are looking into the Ansible thing, and I am trying to get connected with Kevin so that we can talk through ( and configure ) the IPv6 part.
18:13:47 <bdmc> #endmeeting