16:29:26 <justis> #startmeeting
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16:29:36 <justis> #chair alpo billf coxn justis snyrk
16:29:37 <Tribot> Current chairs: alpo billf coxn justis snyrk
16:29:51 <billf> here
16:31:41 <snyrk> hey
16:31:50 <justis> billf: hey!
16:31:52 <justis> snyrk: hey!
16:32:20 <alpo> all here but coxn?
16:32:25 <coxn> gents
16:32:30 <justis> whoa
16:32:34 <justis> it's a party!!!
16:32:39 <billf> snyrk: I was getting worried about you - everything OK ?
16:32:40 <coxn> well... I just got a call
16:32:43 <coxn> I have to run away. :(
16:32:50 <coxn> I'll be back, hopefully in 15min or less
16:32:52 <justis> it was a short party
16:32:54 <coxn> but I can't promise
16:32:56 <justis> https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Steering_committee_meeting_agenda#2012-03-12
16:33:01 <justis> coxn: good luck
16:33:06 <justis> #topic April meeting
16:33:15 * coxn runs
16:34:31 <billf> so far we have 3 speakers - kevin, igor, ??
16:34:39 <justis> so, speakers are currently: Kevin Otte, Jym Williams-Zavada, and Igor Partola
16:35:15 <justis> IMO, we should check with each of them to see who's comfortable talking for how long and then we should recruit one more speaker
16:35:30 <justis> possibly two more, depending on prefs of the first 3
16:35:51 <billf> I'm sure kevin can adjust his length as required
16:36:06 <justis> billf: Agreed. He said pretty much that on Thursday.
16:36:19 * alpo could talk for 3 minutes on converting the "web provisioning" end of a telecom routing system
16:36:27 <justis> He seems excited to have other people speaking at this same talk, to add to the pep-rally spirit he's going for.
16:36:32 <justis> alpo: yes, plz
16:36:45 <alpo> basically 15 digits -> 39 digits, adjust some tests, note some special (RFC1918-like) subnets
16:36:57 <justis> perfect
16:38:18 <justis> I added the names to https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Steering_committee_meeting_agenda#2012-03-12
16:38:41 <justis> are we ready to start promoting the meeting or do we want to sort out more details first?
16:38:54 <justis> IMO, we can promote now if spun correctly
16:39:05 <alpo> now would be a good time... there is a discussion on the main mailing list about "why ipv6" anyway
16:39:15 <justis> nice
16:39:33 <justis> billf: input?
16:39:37 <justis> snyrk: input?
16:39:59 <billf> promote - just need a blurb or two
16:40:13 <justis> nice
16:40:21 <justis> billf: can you chase down Kevin about that?
16:40:21 <billf> I can email the presenters now...
16:40:26 <justis> billf: awesome, thx
16:40:38 <justis> each co-presenter can give us a sentence or two
16:40:43 <alpo> no need to pre-promote the supplemental speakers... make it sound less scripted ?
16:41:09 <alpo> but i am OK with a pre-blurb, if needee
16:42:48 <snyrk> i think there is value in mentioning the various additional topics
16:43:24 <alpo> Igor Partola - Uses IPv6 for easier access to his private network while away from home.
16:43:27 <alpo> Alan Porter - Added IPv6 support to the web provisioning interface for a large telecom project.
16:43:52 <alpo> (dang, my job sounds boring)
16:44:02 <snyrk> is it?
16:44:07 <alpo> (yes)
16:44:10 <snyrk> (sorry)
16:44:22 <alpo> (actually, a lot more boring than that description)
16:44:39 <alpo> (that was the HIGH point)
16:44:49 <justis> (I owe you a reply email on that topic that may be better done over drinks)
16:45:01 * alpo has a liquor bottle in his desk
16:45:07 <justis> lol, nice
16:45:22 <justis> ok ... cross-promoting to other groups
16:45:32 <justis> NCSA, SplatSpace, and ... ?
16:45:38 <alpo> bears, oh my
16:46:40 <alpo> there are a lot of IT groups in Harold Meder's weekly email
16:46:40 <justis> we don't need a final answer on that now, but think about it and email steering with nominations
16:46:49 <justis> alpo: hmmm, good idea
16:49:00 <justis> alpo: can you copy nominations from Harold's list into here? https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/PromotingMeetings
16:49:38 <justis> any additional issues around the April meeting?
16:50:08 * justis nudges alpo, billf, and snyrk
16:50:45 <alpo> making notes
16:51:00 <justis> do re mi fa so la ti do
16:51:02 <alpo> we need to prepare for nominations in april
16:51:15 <alpo> i was remembering the milk
16:51:24 <justis> alpo: have you looked at https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Steering_committee_meeting_agenda#2012-03-12 ?
16:51:31 <justis> SC nominations are next on the agenda
16:51:59 <billf> do we want to hold the hack day at splatspace ?
16:52:24 <billf> or should we ask Peak10 to host the saturday hack day ?
16:52:26 <justis> billf: I'm biased toward "yes" and curious about your feedback regarding SplatSpace as a venue for the hack days.
16:52:36 <billf> we need public ip addresses
16:52:44 <justis> hmmm
16:52:45 <alpo> has anyone mentioned to being "too far" in the durham direction?
16:52:54 <justis> can't public IP's be tunneled?
16:53:05 <justis> fwiw, WebAssign has offered us use of their break room
16:53:08 <billf> distance wasn't a problem, calling a phone to get in was
16:53:11 <justis> not sure if the offer is open on a Saturday
16:53:52 <justis> billf: If you can post someone at the door to SplatSpace (not the door to the building), you can unlock the secondary door.
16:53:52 <billf> or some other venue ?
16:54:01 <alpo> if there is too much wonkiness around getting an IP, it might be harder to conceptualize "how this will work in my home"
16:54:14 <justis> the secondary door is *right* next to the back door to Beyu Caffe
16:54:23 <justis> alpo: agreed
16:54:31 <justis> so, maybe Peak10 is optimal for this event?
16:54:52 <justis> or we tell them that we'll only move it there if they'll route a bunch of public IP's to us during the event
16:55:05 <billf> does peak10 have a space that doesn't require an escort to the toilets ?
16:55:36 <justis> o.O
16:55:39 <justis> srsly?
16:56:03 <billf> Kevin is going to try to provide some public ips via a vpn, but we had trouble with that at Techsho[
16:56:10 <justis> #topic April hack day
16:56:10 <alpo> unfortunately, hosting external meetings is seldom a requirement for office space
16:56:53 <billf> http://trilug.org/2012-04-12/world-ipv6-day
16:57:06 <billf> (not yet published)
16:58:19 <justis> billf: it's a good start
16:58:38 <justis> the title is concerning ... people might think that April 12 is World IPv6 day
16:59:11 <billf> what would be better ?
16:59:24 <alpo> "preparing for..."
16:59:28 <billf> Are you ready for World IPv6 Day ?
16:59:35 <alpo> preparing for 6/6 world ipv6 day
16:59:59 <justis> yeah
17:00:03 <justis> those are good twists
17:00:15 <billf> Maybe the body text can explain when ipv6 day is, and not confuse it with the meeting date
17:00:23 <justis> agreed
17:00:41 <justis> but the title and the URL should avoid that ambiguity if possible
17:00:51 <justis> anyhow, it's a small detail
17:00:58 <billf> stage 1: steal underpants...
17:01:16 <justis> stage 3: PROFIT!
17:01:28 <alpo> steel underpants?
17:01:33 <justis> (stage 2: upgrade to IPv6)
17:02:11 <justis> IPv6, therefore I need steel underpants
17:02:22 <justis> k, srsly
17:02:29 <justis> hack day where?
17:02:37 <billf> actually it is "Collect Underpants"
17:02:45 <justis> is WebAssign interesting or should we just hash out details about door/access at SplatSpace?
17:03:28 <billf> hadn't thought about webassign
17:03:33 <alpo> we can't answer that here... someone with webassign contact should email them
17:03:47 <alpo> (sorry, i read "interested"
17:04:11 <billf> specifically we need a pool of public ip addresses
17:05:01 <billf> if there are no more suggestions then move to the next topic
17:06:11 <justis> #topic SC nominations
17:06:23 <justis> Barry Peddycock nominated himself
17:06:27 <billf> how about Jack Hill ?
17:06:33 <justis> billf: agreed
17:06:43 <alpo> jack is interested
17:06:54 <billf> how do we run the nominations ?
17:07:11 <alpo> jeremy davis would be a good asset
17:07:18 <justis> alpo: much agreed
17:07:41 <justis> alpo: are you interested in another term?
17:07:45 <justis> billf: are you interested in another term?
17:07:49 <justis> coxn: are you interested in another term?
17:07:50 <coxn> I'm in for another term
17:07:50 <alpo> usually we announce on the mailing list that folks can start naming names, and we continue that at the april meeting, with stump speeches
17:07:56 <justis> snyrk: are you interested in another term?
17:08:09 <alpo> i had assumed that this was my last term, but i am not in a hurry to leave
17:08:16 <justis> coxn: wow, have you been paying attention this whole time?
17:08:17 <billf> sure
17:08:30 <coxn> justis: no, I walked back in about 30 seconds before you asked
17:08:33 <snyrk> justis: i will not be able to contribute meaninfully this year
17:08:39 <coxn> apologies that that took me so long
17:08:45 <coxn> still catching up on scrollback
17:08:53 <justis> snyrk: ok, we'll miss you :(
17:09:14 <justis> alpo: why did you assume it was your last term?
17:09:16 <snyrk> likewise, when i have a spare brain cycle to focus on missing things =)
17:09:44 <alpo> last year, I was kinda burned out and running on fumes this summer... but i am sort of back into the swing of it now
17:10:06 <justis> alpo: welcome back :)
17:10:12 <alpo> which is why i nominated myself for "pizza boy"
17:10:35 <alpo> and thanks to you guys for all of the help
17:11:02 <justis> IMO, this term has been a good one
17:11:04 <alpo> (i think the group has done good at compensating for each other's downtimes)
17:11:10 <justis> agreed
17:11:16 <coxn> alpo: :) :) glad you're back in the swing
17:11:21 <coxn> okay I'm fully back
17:11:33 <billf> the next sc needs to deal with moving the meeting ;-(
17:11:51 <justis> billf: I don't think it's that scary of a thing
17:12:39 <coxn> are we still on nominations? do we need to brainstorm any more people?
17:12:47 <billf> no, but be prepared for some upset members
17:12:59 <justis> billf: agreed
17:13:10 <coxn> snyrk: you will be missed on the SC
17:13:16 <justis> coxn: do you have nominations?
17:13:37 <coxn> has anybody ever tried to talk ian kilgore into running?
17:13:46 <coxn> he's the only person I thought of
17:14:17 <alpo> i mentioned it to him a year or two ago
17:14:25 <alpo> since he was so outspoken on IRC
17:14:26 <coxn> alpo: he said no?
17:14:40 <alpo> (that was back when I used to hang out on IRC)
17:14:44 * coxn nods
17:14:49 <alpo> i think he was more interested in being a class clown
17:16:04 <justis> ok
17:16:49 <justis> so, nominations are: alpo, billf, coxn, justis, Barry Peddycock, Jack Hill, Jeremy Davis
17:16:58 <justis> (and still open)
17:17:53 <justis> I'll type those into the wiki
17:17:56 <alpo> we should just start nominating people on the mailing list, and let the discussion flow from there
17:18:01 <justis> #topic recordings of meetings
17:18:14 <justis> does anyone know how they turned out?
17:18:20 <alpo> how did jeremy's video turn out? do we know?
17:18:38 <alpo> i wonder about the lighting.... you could EITHER see the speaker OR the slides
17:18:54 <alpo> but SOUND is probably more important than video
17:19:06 <billf> jeremy said the audio was ok
17:19:25 <billf> he said he would have the videos up within a day or two
17:19:57 <justis> I don't think that Adam ran "recordmydesktop" :/
17:20:26 <coxn> who was the main point of contact for jeremy?
17:20:31 <coxn> should somebody ping him?
17:20:40 <justis> coxn: I just emailed him and CC'd you
17:21:59 <justis> any additional comments about recordings?
17:22:10 <alpo> do we have an idea for storage?
17:22:11 <alpo> where?
17:22:30 * alpo likes self-storage, but understands the current BW limits might be bad for that
17:23:06 <billf> jeremy said archive.org
17:23:28 <justis> coxn: opinion on archive.org vs. ibiblio?
17:23:31 <billf> w are aproachin 60min, can we move on ?
17:23:40 <snyrk> is there some reason not to upload the videos to youtube like the rest of the world?
17:23:57 <alpo> discuss on the SC ML ?
17:24:01 <justis> agreed
17:24:13 <justis> #topic EIN application
17:24:32 <justis> alpo: thanks for caring about it, but I don't have time to think about it this week
17:24:36 <alpo> snyrk, justis, billf: did you guys see it?
17:24:44 <justis> alpo: no
17:24:58 <billf> no - haven't even worked out how to open the truecrypt yet
17:25:01 <coxn> a bit late, but archive.org
17:25:51 <alpo> https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/SteeringSecrets
17:25:56 <alpo> instructions
17:26:50 <justis> this doesn't seem like a topic that should be rushed
17:26:59 <billf> alpo: yes, but not very helpful instructions
17:27:07 <alpo> hard to call it "rushed" as long as i have been sitting on it :-)
17:27:14 <justis> alpo: ha, true
17:27:18 <snyrk> billf: there's a tc-mount shell script in /root/STEERING
17:27:50 <snyrk> i got tired of looking up instructions
17:27:55 <coxn> hey fyi I have a screen session on pilot as root that's going to do the upgrade and reboot
17:28:01 <justis> alpo: my leaning is to get our old EIN back unless it's monumentally difficult and/or significantly risky
17:28:08 <coxn> so if you do log in and su to root, please avoid killing that
17:28:50 <billf> coxn: can you announce the reboot please
17:29:03 <alpo> the paper form had a blank for "our old EIN" and I wrote a note that it was admin-disabled, please restore that one if possible
17:29:04 <snyrk> coxn: screen session for reboot?
17:30:16 <coxn> snyrk: screen session with some sleep && ... commands and an at job, yeah
17:30:30 <coxn> billf: I thought I did... is it still pending?
17:30:31 <billf> alpo: I guess that mounting the tc volume on pilot is a security issue...
17:30:59 <alpo> it probably is... suggestions welcome
17:31:05 <snyrk> coxn: you'll have to explain your technique/rationale to me later
17:31:11 <coxn> yep... I just approved it
17:31:36 * justis bangs his gavel, "Order! Order!"
17:31:39 <justis> :p
17:31:41 <coxn> :)
17:31:44 <justis> this meeting has now run for an hour
17:31:47 <billf> coxn: thanks !
17:32:26 <billf> I move to close the meeting, move all unfinished business to next weeks meeting
17:32:34 <justis> I second that motion.
17:32:44 <alpo> thanks for everything, guys!
17:32:56 <justis> alpo: to you, as well!
17:33:16 <justis> billf: many, many thanks for all your enthusiastic contributions lately
17:33:25 <justis> particularly around the hack days, which look like a great success
17:33:30 <coxn> #endmeeting