16:29:26 #startmeeting 16:29:27 Meeting started Mon Mar 12 16:29:26 2012 UTC. The chair is justis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:29:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:29:36 #chair alpo billf coxn justis snyrk 16:29:37 Current chairs: alpo billf coxn justis snyrk 16:29:51 here 16:31:41 hey 16:31:50 billf: hey! 16:31:52 snyrk: hey! 16:32:20 all here but coxn? 16:32:25 gents 16:32:30 whoa 16:32:34 it's a party!!! 16:32:39 snyrk: I was getting worried about you - everything OK ? 16:32:40 well... I just got a call 16:32:43 I have to run away. :( 16:32:50 I'll be back, hopefully in 15min or less 16:32:52 it was a short party 16:32:54 but I can't promise 16:32:56 https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Steering_committee_meeting_agenda#2012-03-12 16:33:01 coxn: good luck 16:33:06 #topic April meeting 16:33:15 * coxn runs 16:34:31 so far we have 3 speakers - kevin, igor, ?? 16:34:39 so, speakers are currently: Kevin Otte, Jym Williams-Zavada, and Igor Partola 16:35:15 IMO, we should check with each of them to see who's comfortable talking for how long and then we should recruit one more speaker 16:35:30 possibly two more, depending on prefs of the first 3 16:35:51 I'm sure kevin can adjust his length as required 16:36:06 billf: Agreed. He said pretty much that on Thursday. 16:36:19 * alpo could talk for 3 minutes on converting the "web provisioning" end of a telecom routing system 16:36:27 He seems excited to have other people speaking at this same talk, to add to the pep-rally spirit he's going for. 16:36:32 alpo: yes, plz 16:36:45 basically 15 digits -> 39 digits, adjust some tests, note some special (RFC1918-like) subnets 16:36:57 perfect 16:38:18 I added the names to https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Steering_committee_meeting_agenda#2012-03-12 16:38:41 are we ready to start promoting the meeting or do we want to sort out more details first? 16:38:54 IMO, we can promote now if spun correctly 16:39:05 now would be a good time... there is a discussion on the main mailing list about "why ipv6" anyway 16:39:15 nice 16:39:33 billf: input? 16:39:37 snyrk: input? 16:39:59 promote - just need a blurb or two 16:40:13 nice 16:40:21 billf: can you chase down Kevin about that? 16:40:21 I can email the presenters now... 16:40:26 billf: awesome, thx 16:40:38 each co-presenter can give us a sentence or two 16:40:43 no need to pre-promote the supplemental speakers... make it sound less scripted ? 16:41:09 but i am OK with a pre-blurb, if needee 16:42:48 i think there is value in mentioning the various additional topics 16:43:24 Igor Partola - Uses IPv6 for easier access to his private network while away from home. 16:43:27 Alan Porter - Added IPv6 support to the web provisioning interface for a large telecom project. 16:43:52 (dang, my job sounds boring) 16:44:02 is it? 16:44:07 (yes) 16:44:10 (sorry) 16:44:22 (actually, a lot more boring than that description) 16:44:39 (that was the HIGH point) 16:44:49 (I owe you a reply email on that topic that may be better done over drinks) 16:45:01 * alpo has a liquor bottle in his desk 16:45:07 lol, nice 16:45:22 ok ... cross-promoting to other groups 16:45:32 NCSA, SplatSpace, and ... ? 16:45:38 bears, oh my 16:46:40 there are a lot of IT groups in Harold Meder's weekly email 16:46:40 we don't need a final answer on that now, but think about it and email steering with nominations 16:46:49 alpo: hmmm, good idea 16:49:00 alpo: can you copy nominations from Harold's list into here? https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/PromotingMeetings 16:49:38 any additional issues around the April meeting? 16:50:08 * justis nudges alpo, billf, and snyrk 16:50:45 making notes 16:51:00 do re mi fa so la ti do 16:51:02 we need to prepare for nominations in april 16:51:15 i was remembering the milk 16:51:24 alpo: have you looked at https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Steering_committee_meeting_agenda#2012-03-12 ? 16:51:31 SC nominations are next on the agenda 16:51:59 do we want to hold the hack day at splatspace ? 16:52:24 or should we ask Peak10 to host the saturday hack day ? 16:52:26 billf: I'm biased toward "yes" and curious about your feedback regarding SplatSpace as a venue for the hack days. 16:52:36 we need public ip addresses 16:52:44 hmmm 16:52:45 has anyone mentioned to being "too far" in the durham direction? 16:52:54 can't public IP's be tunneled? 16:53:05 fwiw, WebAssign has offered us use of their break room 16:53:08 distance wasn't a problem, calling a phone to get in was 16:53:11 not sure if the offer is open on a Saturday 16:53:52 billf: If you can post someone at the door to SplatSpace (not the door to the building), you can unlock the secondary door. 16:53:52 or some other venue ? 16:54:01 if there is too much wonkiness around getting an IP, it might be harder to conceptualize "how this will work in my home" 16:54:14 the secondary door is *right* next to the back door to Beyu Caffe 16:54:23 alpo: agreed 16:54:31 so, maybe Peak10 is optimal for this event? 16:54:52 or we tell them that we'll only move it there if they'll route a bunch of public IP's to us during the event 16:55:05 does peak10 have a space that doesn't require an escort to the toilets ? 16:55:36 o.O 16:55:39 srsly? 16:56:03 Kevin is going to try to provide some public ips via a vpn, but we had trouble with that at Techsho[ 16:56:10 #topic April hack day 16:56:10 unfortunately, hosting external meetings is seldom a requirement for office space 16:56:53 http://trilug.org/2012-04-12/world-ipv6-day 16:57:06 (not yet published) 16:58:19 billf: it's a good start 16:58:38 the title is concerning ... people might think that April 12 is World IPv6 day 16:59:11 what would be better ? 16:59:24 "preparing for..." 16:59:28 Are you ready for World IPv6 Day ? 16:59:35 preparing for 6/6 world ipv6 day 16:59:59 yeah 17:00:03 those are good twists 17:00:15 Maybe the body text can explain when ipv6 day is, and not confuse it with the meeting date 17:00:23 agreed 17:00:41 but the title and the URL should avoid that ambiguity if possible 17:00:51 anyhow, it's a small detail 17:00:58 stage 1: steal underpants... 17:01:16 stage 3: PROFIT! 17:01:28 steel underpants? 17:01:33 (stage 2: upgrade to IPv6) 17:02:11 IPv6, therefore I need steel underpants 17:02:22 k, srsly 17:02:29 hack day where? 17:02:37 actually it is "Collect Underpants" 17:02:45 is WebAssign interesting or should we just hash out details about door/access at SplatSpace? 17:03:28 hadn't thought about webassign 17:03:33 we can't answer that here... someone with webassign contact should email them 17:03:47 (sorry, i read "interested" 17:04:11 specifically we need a pool of public ip addresses 17:05:01 if there are no more suggestions then move to the next topic 17:06:11 #topic SC nominations 17:06:23 Barry Peddycock nominated himself 17:06:27 how about Jack Hill ? 17:06:33 billf: agreed 17:06:43 jack is interested 17:06:54 how do we run the nominations ? 17:07:11 jeremy davis would be a good asset 17:07:18 alpo: much agreed 17:07:41 alpo: are you interested in another term? 17:07:45 billf: are you interested in another term? 17:07:49 coxn: are you interested in another term? 17:07:50 I'm in for another term 17:07:50 usually we announce on the mailing list that folks can start naming names, and we continue that at the april meeting, with stump speeches 17:07:56 snyrk: are you interested in another term? 17:08:09 i had assumed that this was my last term, but i am not in a hurry to leave 17:08:16 coxn: wow, have you been paying attention this whole time? 17:08:17 sure 17:08:30 justis: no, I walked back in about 30 seconds before you asked 17:08:33 justis: i will not be able to contribute meaninfully this year 17:08:39 apologies that that took me so long 17:08:45 still catching up on scrollback 17:08:53 snyrk: ok, we'll miss you :( 17:09:14 alpo: why did you assume it was your last term? 17:09:16 likewise, when i have a spare brain cycle to focus on missing things =) 17:09:44 last year, I was kinda burned out and running on fumes this summer... but i am sort of back into the swing of it now 17:10:06 alpo: welcome back :) 17:10:12 which is why i nominated myself for "pizza boy" 17:10:35 and thanks to you guys for all of the help 17:11:02 IMO, this term has been a good one 17:11:04 (i think the group has done good at compensating for each other's downtimes) 17:11:10 agreed 17:11:16 alpo: :) :) glad you're back in the swing 17:11:21 okay I'm fully back 17:11:33 the next sc needs to deal with moving the meeting ;-( 17:11:51 billf: I don't think it's that scary of a thing 17:12:39 are we still on nominations? do we need to brainstorm any more people? 17:12:47 no, but be prepared for some upset members 17:12:59 billf: agreed 17:13:10 snyrk: you will be missed on the SC 17:13:16 coxn: do you have nominations? 17:13:37 has anybody ever tried to talk ian kilgore into running? 17:13:46 he's the only person I thought of 17:14:17 i mentioned it to him a year or two ago 17:14:25 since he was so outspoken on IRC 17:14:26 alpo: he said no? 17:14:40 (that was back when I used to hang out on IRC) 17:14:44 * coxn nods 17:14:49 i think he was more interested in being a class clown 17:16:04 ok 17:16:49 so, nominations are: alpo, billf, coxn, justis, Barry Peddycock, Jack Hill, Jeremy Davis 17:16:58 (and still open) 17:17:53 I'll type those into the wiki 17:17:56 we should just start nominating people on the mailing list, and let the discussion flow from there 17:18:01 #topic recordings of meetings 17:18:14 does anyone know how they turned out? 17:18:20 how did jeremy's video turn out? do we know? 17:18:38 i wonder about the lighting.... you could EITHER see the speaker OR the slides 17:18:54 but SOUND is probably more important than video 17:19:06 jeremy said the audio was ok 17:19:25 he said he would have the videos up within a day or two 17:19:57 I don't think that Adam ran "recordmydesktop" :/ 17:20:26 who was the main point of contact for jeremy? 17:20:31 should somebody ping him? 17:20:40 coxn: I just emailed him and CC'd you 17:21:59 any additional comments about recordings? 17:22:10 do we have an idea for storage? 17:22:11 where? 17:22:30 * alpo likes self-storage, but understands the current BW limits might be bad for that 17:23:06 jeremy said archive.org 17:23:28 coxn: opinion on archive.org vs. ibiblio? 17:23:31 w are aproachin 60min, can we move on ? 17:23:40 is there some reason not to upload the videos to youtube like the rest of the world? 17:23:57 discuss on the SC ML ? 17:24:01 agreed 17:24:13 #topic EIN application 17:24:32 alpo: thanks for caring about it, but I don't have time to think about it this week 17:24:36 snyrk, justis, billf: did you guys see it? 17:24:44 alpo: no 17:24:58 no - haven't even worked out how to open the truecrypt yet 17:25:01 a bit late, but archive.org 17:25:51 https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/SteeringSecrets 17:25:56 instructions 17:26:50 this doesn't seem like a topic that should be rushed 17:26:59 alpo: yes, but not very helpful instructions 17:27:07 hard to call it "rushed" as long as i have been sitting on it :-) 17:27:14 alpo: ha, true 17:27:18 billf: there's a tc-mount shell script in /root/STEERING 17:27:50 i got tired of looking up instructions 17:27:55 hey fyi I have a screen session on pilot as root that's going to do the upgrade and reboot 17:28:01 alpo: my leaning is to get our old EIN back unless it's monumentally difficult and/or significantly risky 17:28:08 so if you do log in and su to root, please avoid killing that 17:28:50 coxn: can you announce the reboot please 17:29:03 the paper form had a blank for "our old EIN" and I wrote a note that it was admin-disabled, please restore that one if possible 17:29:04 coxn: screen session for reboot? 17:30:16 snyrk: screen session with some sleep && ... commands and an at job, yeah 17:30:30 billf: I thought I did... is it still pending? 17:30:31 alpo: I guess that mounting the tc volume on pilot is a security issue... 17:30:59 it probably is... suggestions welcome 17:31:05 coxn: you'll have to explain your technique/rationale to me later 17:31:11 yep... I just approved it 17:31:36 * justis bangs his gavel, "Order! Order!" 17:31:39 :p 17:31:41 :) 17:31:44 this meeting has now run for an hour 17:31:47 coxn: thanks ! 17:32:26 I move to close the meeting, move all unfinished business to next weeks meeting 17:32:34 I second that motion. 17:32:44 thanks for everything, guys! 17:32:56 alpo: to you, as well! 17:33:16 billf: many, many thanks for all your enthusiastic contributions lately 17:33:25 particularly around the hack days, which look like a great success 17:33:30 #endmeeting