16:32:04 #startmeeting 16:32:05 Meeting started Mon Apr 16 16:32:04 2012 UTC. The chair is justis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:32:06 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:32:19 #chair alpo billf coxn justis snyrk 16:32:20 Current chairs: alpo billf coxn justis snyrk 16:32:26 #topic agenda 16:32:39 https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Steering_committee_meeting_agenda#2012-04-16 16:33:59 additional nominations for agenda? 16:34:05 note that I edited it 10 secs ago 16:34:17 next hack day ? 16:34:47 billf: I added a "hack days" agenda item, which should include that 16:35:40 ok, i see that now 16:36:15 snyrk had said that he would give us a treasurer's report, but I haven't heard from him in a week or so 16:36:23 I just sent him a txt msg to ask if he can show up 16:36:51 and I moved that to the end of the agenda 16:37:15 #topic announcing May meeting 16:37:16 no additions from me 16:37:36 looks like Ruth Suehle finally got us a bio and synopsis 16:37:43 snyrk came over to my place on Sun and got the money from march and april meeting 16:37:51 and that alpo is on the ball with getting an announcement onto Durpal :D 16:37:55 priorities :-) 16:37:57 billf: oh, nice! 16:38:16 billf: is he doing alright? 16:38:24 last I heard, he was buried in schoolwork 16:38:38 just busy 16:39:02 ok 16:39:20 billf: did you ask him about having the books in order for the next SC? 16:39:46 yes, and he is willing to do the hand over 16:40:03 alpo's magnificent Drupal post about the May meeting: http://trilug.org/2012-05-10/opensource-com 16:40:09 billf: ok, good 16:40:27 what about an announcement on the mailing lists? 16:40:40 (yes, plural) 16:40:51 coxn: we usually use Drupal to stage it and then we copy/paste it into an email 16:40:59 on that note, joe mack complained that we did not send an email on the day of the meeting ... so I pointed him to "cron" 16:41:00 the mailing lists reach far more people 16:41:23 alpo: he wants reminder emails on the day of? 16:41:32 solution -> * * * * 4 DAY=$(date +\%d) ; [ $DAY -ge 8 -a $DAY -le 14 ] && echo "TriLUG meeting tonight" | mail -s 'TriLUG' alan@chutney 16:42:08 can drupal do this for us ? 16:42:18 boy, i hope not... 16:42:25 billf: can Drupal do what? 16:42:35 solution in search of problem 16:42:44 we'd have to distinguish between "send reminder" posts and "no reminder" posts 16:42:50 AFAICT, Drupal can do anything that I can do, only more slowly and with more headaches. 16:42:53 send an email on a particular day 16:43:13 * justis is bitter about his experience writing a Drupal module 16:43:23 * alpo is just bitter in general 16:43:31 alpo: moar coffee 16:43:55 it's all fine and dandy to have a procedure, but it is better if it is automated. 16:43:58 alpo: I liked your "need a job" speech on Thursday. I thought it was honest and compelling. 16:44:16 thanks... i thought it was awkward :-) 16:44:25 we need a bitter old hacks group 16:44:33 billf: don't we have one right here? :p 16:44:36 i saw one this weekend 16:44:41 the "over 40 tech group" 16:44:44 alpo: o.O 16:44:57 okay so meeting announcement... who will do it and to which lists? 16:45:01 ok, do we have a sponsor ? 16:45:07 next topic was "outsmarting your smart phone" 16:45:23 no sponsors until october 16:45:32 OK, so just RH :-) 16:45:53 coxn: I think that sending the meeting announcement is usually billf's responsibility, but that alpo just got a head start on him with creating the Drupal post 16:46:11 * coxn nods 16:46:15 okay 16:46:16 billf: do you think that the Drupal post is ready for release to the mailing lists? 16:46:16 I would like to thank alpo for setting up the drupal page 16:46:23 agreed 16:46:31 my cut-n-paste skills are mad 16:47:08 looking now... 16:47:10 I'd like to hear thoughts on where we should cross-post the May meeting 16:47:51 https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/PromotingMeetings 16:48:31 someone already published it ... :-( 16:48:47 my cut-n-paste skills are mad 16:48:50 billf: that was alpo 16:49:10 billf: I'm just asking if it's ready to send to trilug-announce@ and trilug@ 16:49:31 and also asking which groups would most appreciate a cross-post 16:49:40 I'm nominating SplatSpace and TechShop 16:51:17 i wonder about other groups focused on education or government 16:51:23 #action billf to forward meeting announcement to trilug-announce@trilug.org and trilug@trilug.org ... or to tell us what he needs before it's ready 16:51:27 trying to think of some... 16:51:31 billf: NCTech4Good 16:51:36 billf: CityCamp 16:52:11 billf: I'm sure there are departmental mailing lists at local universities and government agencies that would care ... we're just not really plugged into those 16:52:12 cool 16:52:40 IMO, this topic is sufficiently covered until next week 16:52:47 I will do SplatSpace, TechShop, NCTech4Good, CityCamp 16:52:58 any others, please feel free to on-post 16:53:13 record those contact addresses on https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/PromotingMeetings 16:53:13 #action billf to crosspost meeting announcement to SplatSpace, TechShop, NCTech4Good, CityCamp 16:53:17 billf: thanks! 16:53:20 my cut-n-paste skills are mad 16:53:32 lol 16:53:45 * coxn groans 16:53:50 (that was actually funny) 16:53:50 billf: afaict, the only mailing list for NCTech4Good is on Meetup.com 16:54:29 billf: and I don't think there is a mailing list for CityCamp, but there's a blog. I would recommend contacting Jason Hibbetts. Let me know if you need help reaching him. 16:54:41 I will send it to frontdesk@techshop 16:55:42 billf: ok, that's a start ... are their forums still active? 16:56:26 #topic hack days 16:56:35 First, I want to say ... 16:56:45 OMG! Hack days are quite the success! 16:57:11 nice :-) 16:57:16 * justis bows to billf in gratitude for starting that momentum 16:57:30 let's hope we can keep it rolling 16:57:39 and now Scott Hall has stepped up and is organizing one for us 16:57:56 nice :-) 16:58:01 this is precisely the sort of community involvement that makes this club awesome 16:58:03 (my cut-n-paste skills are mad) 16:58:23 are you happy with scott hall's email I forwarded ? shall I post it as well ? 16:58:33 I'm staring to get the impression that alpo is going a bit mad 16:58:37 Kevin Otte and Lenore Ramm were fantastic about putting together the IPv6 hack day 16:59:02 billf: I have only skimmed it, but I was quite happy with what I saw. 16:59:24 * justis tries it: 12:58 <@alpo> (my cut-n-paste skills are mad) 16:59:31 I will try to get it posted today or tomorrow 16:59:41 billf: ok 16:59:47 good post from scott 16:59:55 #action billf to forward announcement about May 19 hack day 17:00:04 fwiw, that's *after* the main meeting in May 17:01:20 while we're on this success story, I want to say that I am really, really appreciative of the energy and leadership that billf has brought to the SC during this term 17:01:30 we should post it early, and repost it when the date gets closer 17:01:38 * coxn nods an emphatic nod 17:01:40 billf++ 17:01:46 @billf++ 17:01:51 I'm also enthusiastic about how much the membership is coming alive 17:01:59 they're not acting like passive consumers anymore 17:02:11 they're participating and helping us create stuff 17:02:23 Yep, it's great ! 17:02:41 and I think that the hack days were instrumental in helping that happen 17:03:12 TriLUG... it's not just for 2nd Thursdays any more :-) 17:03:17 anything we need to do in order to help Scott succeed with the May 19 hack day / installfest? 17:03:33 * alpo marks his calendar 17:03:45 yeah, I would like to set an agenda for the day, with demos at set times 17:03:46 alpo: that's an excellent start :) 17:03:55 billf: good idea! 17:04:16 billf: shall we coordinate with Scott about that? 17:04:39 food? 17:04:43 drinks? 17:04:56 coxn: yes, but let's deal with that in May 17:05:18 left over pizza went down well on Sat 17:05:23 just a way that we could help 17:05:25 and left over drinks 17:05:37 * justis humbly requests something other than pizza and notes that Toreros (a mile from SplatSpace) has some affordable platters of Mexican munchies 17:05:55 but I can always go grab my own food 17:06:12 billf: yeah, that was great of Scott to carry the leftover drinks 17:06:16 who brought the leftover pizza? 17:06:26 I did 17:06:29 nice :) 17:06:42 we have 4 pies from Thurs which I refridgerated 17:06:43 @billf++ 17:07:01 that's a lot of leftovers 17:07:01 * justis prepares for the karma overflow 17:07:58 anything else about hack days? I think we have enough lead time on this next one. I just wanted to celebrate the recent success and get a head start on the next one. 17:08:25 I think we're good... next agenda item, please 17:08:47 #topic SC nominations 17:08:54 I made a wikipage 17:08:57 #link http://trilug.org/wiki/Steering_Committee_2012-2013_Nominations 17:09:00 coxn: nice! 17:09:06 @coxn++ 17:09:24 (my cut-n-paste skills are mad) 17:09:41 so yeah... please edit if you're not on the page 17:10:17 we should make this page known... email the masses 17:10:36 indeed 17:10:43 I wanted to run it by folks here before we did so 17:10:49 looks great 17:10:53 btw, I bumped treasurer's report to https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Steering_committee_meeting_agenda#2012-04-23 17:10:55 (and if not, we can edit it) 17:10:55 the one from last year had the announcement text 17:11:27 alpo, since you did the announcement before to the list... want to stick with that and you send out the wikipage? 17:11:33 I can send it out if you don't want to 17:11:34 ok 17:11:40 awesome; thanks 17:11:48 i'll make up some smart-aleck comments... they are expected from me 17:12:09 #action alpo to send to smart-aleck comments to the mailing list, announcing the steering committee nominations 17:12:14 I liked last year's 'nom-nom-nominations' subject line 17:12:35 wow, justis's cut-n-paste skills are mad 17:12:39 here is the internal list: https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/SteeringCommitteeNominations 17:13:03 nice 17:13:19 I am currently on the fence about running for another term :/ 17:13:42 not sure how much of that is the depression I am battling and how much is realism about not spreading myself so thin 17:14:13 * alpo was thinking the same thing about himself... :-) 17:14:22 also, I am really enthusiastic about all 3 of the new nominees 17:14:39 I would endorse any or all of them 17:15:46 are we wrapping this up? 17:15:48 looks like it 17:16:07 justis: I am wondering about myself too, but I think it is just a spread thin time of the year 17:16:09 coxn: thanks for the wiki page 17:16:10 alpo: yes, this is the last topic on the agenda 17:16:35 taxes due tomorrow :-) 17:16:51 billf: if we were "drawing straws" right now, I would nominate you for chair ... I certainly hope you'll run for another term 17:16:59 billf: at the very least, I hope you'll stay involved 17:17:06 alpo: ok 17:17:12 alpo: we can wrap up very soon 17:17:23 * alpo is thinking if there is a lot of interest from newbie, I could become a "tribal elder" (like nivex) 17:17:29 anything left to cover within nominations? 17:17:43 alpo: nivex seems to like that role 17:18:04 coxn: not really 17:18:12 thanks, all 17:18:12 don't everybody step down at once, okay? 17:18:19 seriously. we need you. :) 17:18:29 coxn: :) 17:18:31 alpo, billf, justis 17:18:38 if we get 4 enthusiastic step-uppers.... 17:18:40 and thank you. :) 17:18:45 no, we need continuity as well as fresh blood 17:18:53 honestly, it's been a good term 17:18:57 okay... I'm calling it, but we can keep chatting 17:18:59 I think we've grown the LUG a lot during the past year 17:19:00 #endmeeting