16:02:35 #startmeeting 16:02:36 Meeting started Mon Jul 16 16:02:35 2012 UTC. The chair is billf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:02:54 #chair billf justis alpo coxn jeremyhwllc 16:02:55 Current chairs: alpo billf coxn jeremyhwllc justis 16:04:04 #topic August preso on CA Cert, Freenode, GPG 16:05:45 the drupal page is published, we can start announcing it this week 16:05:59 will do 16:07:03 Evan will need to use someones latop on the night 16:07:44 Evan will bring his presentation on a usb drive. I was discouraging him from relying on internet connectivity 16:07:51 he can use mine 16:08:56 greetings 16:09:03 howdy 16:09:09 apologies for my tardiness 16:10:12 anything else on the Aug Meeting ? 16:10:17 anything else we need to square away fro August? 16:10:19 heh 16:10:22 nothing here 16:10:33 #topic August Saturday workshop venue for CA Cert 16:10:33 I can offer my 4G phone, tethered, if the presenters are the only ones using it 16:11:14 where are we at with this. Splatspace is booked... 16:12:01 I called about 6 or seven places last week. Still need to call the library in Durham 16:12:30 I will make some more calls on my luch break tomorrow 16:12:56 great work jeremyhwllc 16:12:56 I tried the Raleigh and Durham Chambers or Commerce 16:13:18 guys, do we want to keep looking for a venue of use splat ? 16:13:44 I'm looking for guidence here... 16:13:47 I would prefer to use *_ for this one and use our other candidate venues for the next one 16:14:05 The McKimmon Center gave us a good deal... $800 16:14:08 also, if there are reasons other than variety that we want to "upgrade" from *_, I want to know what those are 16:14:14 jeremyhwllc: o.O 16:14:20 $800? For a meeting? 16:14:36 For a workshop with 20 attendees? 16:14:41 another in Durham quoted $245 16:14:45 wtf 16:15:09 They said normally not so expensive but no one else was booked 16:15:34 usally the McKimmon center is about 245 16:16:09 ok, any objections to Splat for August ? 16:16:15 none here 16:16:16 none here 16:16:42 then Splat is it. 16:17:20 who would like to put up the drupal page for the workshop ? 16:18:03 * alpo catches up 16:18:09 jeremyhwllc: I think maybe you meant $80? 16:18:11 #agreed the august workshop will be at SplatSpace 16:18:14 what needs to be included? Time and directions? 16:18:38 do a draft page first, time, directions, map, phone number to get in. 16:19:09 the GPG guys would like a keysigning at the workshop too. 16:19:14 maybe the phone number can be left off, just put it on a note on the door 16:19:26 to keep personal phone#'s off of the web 16:19:37 Sure, no phone numbers 16:19:45 I don't think we have offered to Evan yet that he could do a workshop on Freenet 16:20:04 the phone number for *_ is Asterisk and rings inside the space 16:20:13 but I don't remember the # :( 16:20:32 ok, so we don't want to interrupt the CA class, but will they be in the conference room ? 16:22:26 it depends on how many sign up 16:22:31 there's more room in the main space 16:22:41 and what's wrong with interrupting the class with a phone call from the door? 16:22:48 it doesn't take long for us to answer 16:22:57 or we can set times, like 10am CA Cert, 2pm, Keysign, 3pm Freenet 16:23:05 oic 16:23:15 yeah, that could make sense 16:23:25 justis: I was thinking freenet hacking interrupting the CA Cert class 16:23:27 don't announce Freenet. Just ask Evan if he wants to do it. 16:23:35 billf: ok, thanks for clarifying 16:24:02 how do we book the conference room for the CA cert class 16:24:51 anything else on this topic ? 16:24:54 I need to physically write our name on the booklet by the door 16:25:11 cool. 16:25:17 (robotic pen) 16:25:27 (hmmm) 16:25:40 do we want a web sign up sheet for the CA Cert, or an email address ? 16:27:00 or just a thread on trilug ml 16:27:03 coxn: http://www.doodle.com/se29bigw5d2dirr9 16:27:13 billf: meetup 16:27:16 brb with link 16:28:02 http://www.meetup.com/splatspace/events/72595012/ 16:28:09 do you think everyone will sign up to the meetup service ? 16:28:22 I also need text for that link 16:28:46 billf: no, but we can always have one of us handle the "I hate Meetup" RSVPs by email and then add them as guests 16:28:57 when you RSVP, you can specify how many guests you're bringing 16:29:09 the visibility of RSVPs helps build momentum and attract others 16:29:11 IMO 16:29:16 OK, sounds good. I use meetup for other things, but it took a push for me to sign up 16:30:02 so we need the meetup page on the drupal draft page 16:30:20 can I move on to the next topic ? 16:30:54 #topic IRC Meeting Time and Day 16:30:56 got it 16:31:23 How is everyone with 10pm Monday night ? 16:31:33 Good 16:31:39 Is that too late ? 16:32:02 * alpo is always up until about midnight 16:32:02 not too late for me 16:32:17 it's good for me 16:32:18 We can always chat a bit before hand, I will probably log in at 9pm while I get stuff organises 16:32:20 late is easier 16:32:53 coxn: How are you for IRC at 10pm Monday nights ? 16:33:01 billf: I can do that 16:33:07 OK, so let 16:33:16 OK, so let's start that next week 16:33:23 * justis updates calendar 16:33:24 sounds good 16:34:02 #topic September Meeting 16:34:47 Start thinking about who/what we can do for Sept. 16:34:49 btw, I will be absent from next week's meeting 16:35:04 justis: OK, thanks for letting us know. 16:35:07 but that would have been true for any time of day 16:35:09 I'm traveling 16:35:18 we'll assign some stuff to you in your absence 16:35:32 alpo: gee, thx 16:35:41 Shall I email Ronin about his bluetooth talk ? 16:36:19 that might be a good one 16:36:33 alpo: can you ping your NASA guy and see if he is coming into town sometime this year ? 16:36:53 i can try... but it's just a twitter handle 16:37:38 so let's start reaching out for speakers, and put them into the pipeline 16:37:43 (related note - mars curiosity rover crash-lands in 3 weeks) 16:38:39 #topic General Business 16:38:56 does anyone have any general business to discuss ? 16:38:58 re speakers 16:39:03 I want to get http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/about.php 16:39:05 Keith Bergelt 16:39:07 for October 16:39:13 I will follow-up with him in early August 16:39:17 I am too busy right now 16:39:19 nice 16:39:40 justis: great 16:40:19 also, I want to say that y'all did a great job promoting last month's meeting 16:40:26 announcements out early or on time 16:40:30 and posted to all the right locations 16:40:39 with particular thanks to jeremyhwllc :) 16:40:59 yeah, second that. thanks jeremy ! 16:41:09 thanks 16:41:16 and alpo with the banking wizardry 16:41:22 indeed! 16:41:25 alpo++ 16:41:33 $$++ 16:41:57 we will need to talk about 2013 meeting location soon, but not today please 16:42:12 I read about Google checkout. We may be able to use that on our site to accept credit cards 16:42:25 we should get a feel from adam/RH about when they plan to move, what's their plan for the varsity bldg 16:42:38 billf: Adam Drew said we have like 18 months to figure it out 16:42:48 billf: and that he'll warn us if that timeline shortens 16:43:12 jeremyhwllc: our main concern was to get CC from sponsors (since many do not have checks)... not sure how applicable a web donation/checkout will be 16:43:16 that's great news, it might be the next SC's job :-) 16:43:46 IMO, we will get an extra $500+ per year if we make it easier for general members to donate 16:43:56 probably more if we involve swag and/or recognition 16:44:03 when we hold the meetings should we discuss this topic? That would help us poll the folks who show up 16:44:05 even a paypal acct is possible now that we have a proper bank acct 16:44:37 paypal is a bit expensive whether we use it or not 16:44:45 jeremyhwllc: WRT to changing meeting location, we should poll the membership database and/or mailing list. The in-person meetings are biased by the people who can make it to our existing location. 16:44:49 I think Google is free until used 16:45:44 what's up with the PO box? 16:45:53 alpo: did you send payment already? 16:46:08 when did we last check the contents of the box? 16:46:17 I haven't checked it in 8 months or something like that 16:46:48 i paid, i checked before the last meeting 16:47:11 only 1 item -- a PO Box renewal notice 16:48:21 do we have tax exempt status? 16:48:32 501(3)c 16:48:39 not federal... we are a NC non-profit corp 16:49:04 so donations would be exempt from state taxes? 16:49:15 i am not sure how that works 16:49:27 no, donations are not exempt from any taxes 16:49:31 not currently 16:49:52 in practice, we have found that most donors end up writing sponsorships off as advertising expenses, not as charitable donations 16:49:55 I guess sponsors write it off as advertising expenses 16:50:04 (jinx) 16:50:07 if we pursue that exemption, we will probably get a lot more donations 16:50:22 I think the historic thing Alan is talking about is because of whom we recruit as donors 16:50:31 we have been recruiting "sponsors", not "donors" 16:50:31 yes 16:50:46 but 501c3 would let us have pledge drives 16:50:48 with targets 16:50:57 and solicit money from membership in general 16:51:00 etc 16:51:06 but I do not think it's a priority 16:51:12 unless we have goals to do things with more money 16:51:44 do we want more servers for our rack ? 16:51:59 I have been sending sponsorship requests here and there, sent one to Radio Shack and Hitachi I think 16:52:26 I'm helping a friend pick up 11x 1u Duel Xeons servers tonight :-) 16:52:31 It would be nice to have funds for events when needed 16:53:03 or t shirts 16:53:10 Yes, like running a Linux confrence or something 16:53:21 jeremyhwllc: would you like to help with the homework for re-establishing 501c3? 16:53:40 we had looked into it briefly, and now it would be our next step 16:53:56 now that our EIN is clear and we have a bank acct 16:54:04 I will try, depending on how daunting it actually is. 16:54:20 i think it's a lot of reading and then filling out 1 form or postcard 16:54:33 The IRS website says it is difficult to acquire 16:54:46 ok, let's take this offline 16:55:33 I will add it to my to do pending I find time 16:56:01 do we have other business? 16:56:06 Google would donate to events etc if Tax exempt 16:56:22 no other business here 16:56:42 done ? 16:57:14 done 16:57:33 #closemeeting 16:57:45 #endmeeting