01:01:21 #startmeeting 01:01:22 Meeting started Mon May 13 01:01:21 2013 UTC. The chair is billf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:01:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 01:01:50 #topic New SC Committee changeover 01:02:14 #chair coxn alpo justis mhrivnak IsharaComix billf 01:02:15 Current chairs: IsharaComix alpo billf coxn justis mhrivnak 01:02:22 so shall we schedule a face-to-face? 01:02:28 possibly with food and beverages? 01:02:32 yes, plz 01:02:36 All of those things sound good. 01:02:44 we shall, but IsharaComix is not available for 2 weeks 01:02:51 I see 01:03:24 unavailable is the short answer. I'll be in town the weekend of barcamp and can stretch that back and forward a day if necessary. 01:03:25 IsharaComix: when do you get back ? 01:04:33 I will create a doodle poll - any initial preferences ? 01:04:59 first up - can I get IsharaComix and mhrivnak to add their contact details to the top of the SC wiki 01:05:04 I'm pretty flexible outside normal business hours. 01:05:05 5/17- 5/21. Prefer evenings. 01:05:05 Thursdays and Saturdays are better than other days 01:05:38 Do I need to actually create a mediawiki account on the sc-wiki? 01:05:39 billf, will do once I can get a kind volunteer to reset my password. 01:05:57 hmm, not sure 01:06:06 yes 01:06:33 we don't have complete integration with ldap yet 01:06:53 or maybe alpo implemented this yesterday ? 01:07:37 billf The ldap just gives me view access. 01:07:52 I had to add a mediawiki account for myself to go in and edit 01:08:00 well, you will need to create a media wiki account now I guess 01:08:07 since the steering wiki is password-protected, we could just enable anonymous editing. 01:08:31 requiring login helps us track who edited what 01:08:45 Good point. Either way, contact information has been added. 01:08:52 thanks :) 01:09:47 is somebody already resetting a password for mhrivnak? 01:10:09 and if not, what password is this? pilot ldap? other? 01:10:12 no - he has already logged in to the website 01:10:17 okay cool 01:10:27 do we have other action items on handoff? 01:10:35 handoff/changeover 01:10:37 coxn: mhrivnak needs to create a media wiki account before he can edit 01:10:55 coxn: we have to agree on where we will bury the bodies 01:11:04 I guess we can move on to positions 01:11:28 billf, are you saying I've logged into something? I don't think I've had success logging into any trilug services today. 01:11:37 wiki included. 01:12:16 justis: pffft. 01:12:47 coxn: c'mon. We all agreed that Alan and Jeremy know too much. 01:12:48 ok, coxn can you reset mhrivnak ldap password 01:13:03 mhrivnak: which email address do you use ? 01:13:13 billf, mhrivnak@hrivnak.org 01:14:34 Internal Server Error 01:14:38 o.O 01:14:40 trying to log into steering.trilug 01:16:27 I'm ready to reset mhrivnak's password 01:16:29 AuthUserFile not specified in the configuration 01:16:30 shall I? 01:16:35 justis: do it 01:16:49 #topic Officer Positions 01:17:09 So now we should talk about who wears what hat 01:17:36 I want the sombrero 01:17:45 we can either decide tonight, or pospone to the next meeting 01:17:48 I like Tilley hats 01:17:49 I would very much like to be PR. 01:17:51 coxn: thx, done 01:18:02 Or as we call it in NCSULUG, Minister of Propaganda. 01:18:11 I suggest that we discuss it tonight and finalize it at our f2f meeting 01:18:13 @IsharaComix++ 01:18:21 @justis++ 01:18:30 IsharaComix for miniprop! 01:18:47 I think he'll do a bang-up job of it 01:18:48 mhrivnak: would you be comfortable being treasurer? 01:18:59 coxn, I am happy to do that. 01:19:08 I'll nominate you for that, then 01:19:25 since I think we need some experience to get our 501(c)(3) stuff sorted out 01:20:15 #link http://trilug.org/about-steering 01:20:27 we have chair, vice-chair, and webmaster left 01:20:27 (quick aside: looks like my last login to pilot was January of 2008) 01:21:04 I'm very happy in either the vice-chair or webmaster hat 01:21:27 hah - i'm feeling cornered :-) 01:21:31 justis: do you have a preference? 01:21:34 billf: heh 01:21:38 billf: I know you didn't want to do chair again 01:21:51 coxn: I prefer chair, vice-chair, or treasurer 01:22:08 coxn: in a pinch, I could do webmaster 01:22:24 coxn: but I'd probably be looking to others to help with sysadmin tasks 01:22:34 cool 01:22:48 billf: preference(s)? 01:23:50 no, I guess I will do what ever is required 01:24:21 If I was to stay as pres, I would have to improve my management style 01:25:26 billf: moar flogginz! 01:26:14 billf: I think you've done fine 01:26:27 we need any more discussion on this right now? 01:26:38 on to the next thing? 01:26:42 ok 01:26:55 #topic June Meeting & Location 01:27:23 IsharaComix: We get access to reserve a room through NCSULUG on May 20, yes? 01:27:35 may 27th. 01:27:38 ew 01:27:42 after the first full week of classes. 01:27:47 blech 01:27:48 i'll ask on the 20th anyway though 01:27:52 ok, thanks 01:27:55 and report back if they tell me to wait 01:28:06 what about hunt lib for one night ? 01:28:08 (summer is usually easier than the main semester, especially for a one-time meeting) 01:28:14 #action IsharaComix to attempt reserving a room at NCSU on May 20th 01:28:20 hunt would be a pain to get. 01:28:32 and expensive, as we now know 01:28:35 Unless we play up the 'celebrity speaker' angle, which I'd prefer not to do. 01:28:42 coxn: only the IEI is expensive 01:28:51 coxn: the auditorium is managed separately 01:28:52 ahh. fair enough 01:28:56 the auditorium is the same as any other classroom 01:29:23 IsharaComix: but less likely to be booked regularly for a class, no? 01:29:27 so Jeremy has organised Cathy Davidson for June 01:29:47 justis, not necessarily. there are classes that meet there regularly during the semester 01:30:02 do we need to confirm her now without a venue ? 01:30:32 billf: yes 01:30:46 R&R is fast. They can get you a room with 48hr notice. 01:30:52 R&R? 01:30:57 #action jeremy to confirm Cathy Davidson for June meeting 01:31:00 sorry - registration and records. 01:31:09 they are in charge of room reservations 01:31:44 i'm seeing cathy on 5/20. I can bring up anything you need me to. 01:31:55 IsharaComix: do you think there is any significant risk of there being no room of sufficient size available on June 14? 01:32:15 Given my past experience, no. 01:32:24 that's what I would expect,t oo 01:32:34 7pm isn't exactly primetime in EBII 01:32:41 but isn't the meeting on june 13th? 01:32:57 IsharaComix: you are correct, June 13th 01:33:09 justis, 7pm is when they have the ACM and Fidelity talks. 01:33:11 * justis realigns his eyeballs to their proper position in their sockets 01:33:20 not during summer, of course. 01:33:37 IsharaComix: True, but I've never seen two of them booked on the same night and there are 3 lecture halls of sufficient size 01:33:47 trufax. 01:34:05 getting a room one night is fine. The trick is getting a room on a regular basis. 01:34:37 I'd be satisfied with getting the same wing (either ECE or CSC) or a regular basis 01:34:41 right now we just need June. We have other irons in the fire for future meetings 01:34:50 we can cover the rest with sandwich boards and volunteers to direct traffic 01:34:53 will do. consider me on top of it. 01:34:59 https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/MeetingLocation 01:35:04 IsharaComix: thanks :) 01:36:03 billf: may I delete bandwidth.com? I have confirmed that they do not have a large enough room for us 01:36:12 I will be out of the country for June meeting - so I won't been of much use 01:36:15 justis: yes 01:36:36 is bandwith moving into the RH HQ ? 01:36:57 billf: they moved into the space that RedHat already vacated across the street. 01:36:57 billf, not the main building we've been meeting in, as far as I know. 01:37:06 I wonder who is ? 01:37:15 I digress 01:37:15 dust bunnies 01:37:40 #topic Speaker Pipleline... 01:37:48 I'll keep my ear to the ground about who moves into that building. 01:38:06 https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/UpcomingMeetings 01:38:16 nothing for July yet? 01:38:18 So we need to find speakers for august and future meetings 01:38:44 plunder the BarCamp and SELF confernce speakers 01:38:56 (looking at the list) I know a guy who'd prolly be willing to talk about patents and stuff. 01:39:12 he's the VP of the IEEE Eastern NC Section. 01:39:15 I could talk all night about patents :-) 01:39:24 He's a lawyer. :) 01:39:44 somebody approached me after Thursday's meeting and asked if we might consider having a meeting that is aimed more at casual and home users, instead of at sysadmins or developers 01:39:46 That sounds quite interesting. 01:40:01 justis, I was thinking the same thing during this past meeting. 01:40:07 like video editing ? 01:40:09 I really enjoyed Keith Bergelt's spin on patents 01:40:18 billf: video editing could be good, yeah 01:40:43 justis, how about web-based video editing with mozilla popcorn? 01:40:44 on #trilug we have talked about a distro roundup 01:41:00 Something like a "Desktop Application Showcase" could be cool. 01:41:14 might want to do a video editing roundup then 01:41:15 http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/ 01:41:37 I like "desktop application showcase" slightly more than distro roundup, but either one sounds like a refreshing change of pace 01:42:05 there's this thing at usenix called "the guru is in" 01:42:12 So, Keith is the figurehead of http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/ and can speak intelligently (at somewhat dizzying depth) about the IP landscape around open source 01:42:17 which is usually a q&a session targeted around a specific family of topics. 01:42:36 IsharaComix: what's the format and how many people typically attend? 01:42:59 there might be videos online. searching... please wait... 01:43:14 depends on the topic - if it is distros - get several people to champion their favourite 01:43:20 FWIW, the particular member I spoke with really liked the idea of smaller, round-table discussions as opposed to auditorium-style presentations. 01:43:42 -- meetings with breakout sessions? 01:44:01 yes, or possibly separate meetings on a separate night 01:44:08 #idea Meeting Topic: Desktop Application Showcase 01:44:11 justis, that sounds like the kind of thing that might lead to some formal "special interest groups" 01:44:22 mhrivnak: is that good? 01:44:35 justis, yes, I think it would be. 01:44:39 * justis thinks it is, too 01:44:57 #idea Meeting Topic: Video Editing for Home Users 01:45:03 trizpug also encourages lightning talks after all meetings that have been rather interesting. 01:45:18 now that I think of it, we could keep a "birds of a feather" breakout session in our back pocket for when the pipeline is lean 01:45:41 I'd enjoy a talk on photo editing and management 01:45:42 or a hack day following the meeting 01:45:48 IsharaComix: agreed ... I like that about TriZPUG 01:45:53 coxn, me too on the photo editing 01:45:59 eg. how you deal with your vacation or wedding photos or whatever 01:46:08 #idea Meeting Topic: Photo Editing and Libraries 01:47:36 #idea Meeting Topic: Birds of a Feather / breakout discussion groups 01:48:01 #topic General Business 01:48:23 I'd like to add something new to our monthly meeting agenda 01:48:30 BarCamp is screeming up on us 01:48:38 billf: is that general business? 01:48:43 justis: sure - go ahead 01:48:49 billf: deserves its own agenda item or its own meeting 01:49:04 #topic BarCamp 01:49:11 (this is the last sunday before barcamp, after all. ^^) 01:49:12 ok, let's cover it now 01:49:27 t-shirts ordered ? 01:49:58 I'm going to add IsharaComix and mhrivnak to my Google Drive for bar camp 01:50:04 coxn: ? 01:50:15 last I saw, The Merch was waiting on us to finalize design 01:51:55 justis: I put Red Hat and The Merch in touch with each other 01:51:56 * justis taps the mic, "Is this thing on?" 01:51:59 I'll ping them 01:52:05 coxn: ok, thx 01:52:06 so let's catch IsharaComix and mhrivnak up on BarCamp 01:52:22 #action coxn to hassle RedHat about finalizing design with The Merch 01:52:38 http://trilug.org/barcamp/ 01:53:08 I think Red Hat signed off, but am not sure 01:53:09 email sent 01:53:20 food ? coffee ? wifi ? 01:53:21 AFAIK, Red Hat has provided the stuff that was necessary after some back-and-forth. 01:53:26 CC'd Steering 01:53:59 I had a back-and-forth with people at Red Hat and the Merch on Friday while a passenger in a car 01:54:08 it sounded like they had things under control 01:54:28 but we'll see what they say tomorrow 01:54:45 anything else tonight without Jeremy here ? 01:55:00 let's move on beyond barcamp since he's not here, yeah 01:55:09 justis: what was your new agenda item ? 01:55:11 or... maybe schedule one last meeting? 01:55:27 billf: back to general business? 01:55:35 can I add an item? 01:55:35 we should have a meeting with Jeremy 01:55:36 #action billf will email jeremy to schedule a barcamp meeting this week 01:55:40 should be quick 01:55:41 probably tomorrow 01:56:21 #topic engaging volunteers 01:56:22 quick addition and then general business? 01:56:26 okay cool 01:56:29 that works, too 01:56:33 this was my platform issue 01:56:36 I'll talk more about it later 01:56:42 the first thing I want to do, though 01:56:50 is add an agenda item to the monthly meeting 01:56:59 should take about 60 seconds each month 01:57:07 to thank everyone who did something for TriLUG during the past month 01:57:17 ooh neat 01:57:21 I dig it 01:57:28 like itemized thank yous? 01:57:30 most helpful person on the mailing list, the person who helped us upgrade servers, the person who fixed auth on the wiki, etc 01:57:34 IsharaComix: exactly 01:57:40 I like it. 01:57:43 as do i 01:57:52 nice 01:57:54 let's do it 01:57:54 good idea 01:58:02 #topic General Business 01:58:02 it would be cool if that included a call to action if applicable 01:58:03 should help improve the visibility of people who do awesome stuff 01:58:10 I had one more thing 01:58:13 if we could 01:58:23 coxn: go ahead 01:58:35 #topic anti-harassment verbiage review 01:58:45 we don't have to do this now, but I'd like feedback by Wednesday 01:58:47 #link https://github.com/tarheelcoxn/trilug-anti-harassment/compare/master...techbackground 01:59:00 that branch and any other changes you'd like to see 01:59:07 ahhhh no linebreaks 01:59:10 because I want to make it fully published 01:59:24 IsharaComix: I know. it sucks 01:59:30 I blame Drupal 01:59:34 :) 01:59:51 so like I said, I don't want to hold everybody up now 01:59:58 but I'd like to publish Wednesday 02:00:14 so if you feel like working with me on it, find me on IRC or via email 02:00:18 okay I'm done 02:00:30 OK - I'll chat tomorrow during th day 02:00:34 #topic General Business 02:00:36 @coxn++ 02:00:43 anything else - we have hit 10pm 02:00:46 btw, I updated https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/MeetingAgenda#Agenda 02:01:08 justis: thanks 02:01:08 to add the thankfulness item 02:01:19 billf do you want to make me an admin on the trilug facebooks and give me twitter access? 02:01:47 #action justis to follow-up with Jack Hill about fixing our wiki 02:02:09 #action billf will add IsharaComix and mhrivnak to facebook linkedin groups 02:02:38 twitter account is listed on https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/ExternalServices 02:03:27 the SC wiki has accounts and passwords for all sorts of stuff 02:03:33 have fun ! 02:03:42 i looked in the 'secrets' page but couldn't find it. :) 02:03:55 ExternalServices 02:03:58 anything else? 02:04:11 not from me 02:04:21 welcome aboard, mhrivnak and IsharaComix :) 02:04:28 thanks! 02:04:32 hope the first spin around the harbor was nice. 02:04:43 yeah, good to have you guys here 02:04:58 onward and upwards ! 02:05:01 Indeed. I'm looking forward to digging in to some things. 02:05:24 these IRC minutes are archived for later review if you need to 02:05:36 #endmeeting