16:30:07 #startmeeting 16:30:08 Meeting started Mon Apr 14 16:30:07 2014 UTC. The chair is billf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:30:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:30:18 #chair IsharaComix coxn mhrivnak justis billf 16:30:19 Current chairs: IsharaComix billf coxn justis mhrivnak 16:30:31 #topic May 8 Meeting: Systemd - David Both 16:30:31 * coxn waves 16:31:45 Time to send an announcement for the May meeting 16:32:13 IsharaComix: if you want to hand off any chunks of promotion for this month, let me know 16:33:10 other than promotion, anything else we need to cover on this agenda item? 16:33:15 ahoy 16:33:32 cross promotion ? 16:33:32 i guess we already have drupal page? 16:33:44 drupal page for May and June are up 16:33:53 dulug meetup event again? 16:33:56 awesome 16:34:05 err not dulug... durham 16:34:12 y'all know what I mean 16:34:18 I will kick off the durham lug thing if you like 16:34:50 IsharaComix: did you get approved for the meetup group ? 16:34:52 cool I can log in and say I'm attending if you do that 16:35:11 oh yeah 16:35:13 probably 16:35:49 regardless of who does it, ping steering@ once you do and I'll jump in 16:36:00 IsharaComix: do you want to try posting a new meetup then ? 16:36:09 i can try sure 16:36:15 will let u know how it goes 16:36:26 ping me on IRC if you need me 16:36:59 #action IsharaComix will post May meeting announcement to ML's 16:37:25 #action IsharaComix will propose meetup event to Durham Lug Meetup group 16:37:44 IsharaComix: feel free to delegate to coxn, he owes you one ! 16:38:19 #topic June 12 Meeting: Women in FOSS 16:38:52 cool, so... 16:38:59 when should we aim to finalise and publish the panel 16:39:17 I need to update the page with the confirmed names 16:39:24 I can do that after the meeting 16:39:44 and since pycon is done I'll be checking in with Julia 16:39:58 I'm not sure what else needs doing this week 16:40:13 I suppose reaching to to each of the named/confirmed panelists to ask if they need/want anything 16:40:21 confirm bios, I guess 16:40:42 at some point we need to decide when to publish and promote 16:40:58 I think we also need to get a room sorted... 16:40:59 i can promote through the csc dept 16:41:11 i can't get room until beg of june 16:41:12 billf: publish? the stub is already live, isn't it? 16:41:35 yeah it's live 16:42:07 i can reserve the room on may 26 16:42:09 Yes. I think we might get more interest when we start cross promoting if we have a list of panellists 16:42:31 what do you think ? 16:43:11 oh I see what you mean 16:43:20 yeah I'll get the panelists in the post after the meeting 16:43:46 #action coxn to add panelists list to http://trilug.org/2014-06-12/women-in-foss 16:44:14 #action coxn to reach out to each panelist for women in foss panel for a finalized bio 16:44:21 anything else? 16:44:24 #topic Membership form processing 16:44:33 thanks IsharaComix ! 16:44:35 IsharaComix: thanks for do this 16:44:36 @IsharaComix++ 16:44:37 @IsharaComix++ 16:44:56 do we need to clean up that one account you sent email about ? 16:45:01 yes 16:45:10 not sure how to undo the stuff the script does 16:45:22 several things failed 16:45:35 coxn: can you have a look at it and delete the bad account ? 16:45:57 other than that, i still have 10 members or so that need cards 16:45:59 so we need to print more 16:46:19 I can do it, yeah 16:46:28 IsharaComix: will you shoot me an email directly about it? 16:46:34 coxn, i can do that 16:46:56 #action coxn to clean up a wonky account on pilot 16:46:57 so justis had a lead on printing cards. otherwise I could get the local print shop to print up 250 business cards 16:47:15 i kept one blank as a proof just in case 16:47:45 the pdf for the cards is in the steering account on pilot 16:47:50 i figured 16:48:41 the last run were printed onto card stock and hand cut. 16:49:48 let's leave this until next week and have a look at options in the mean time. 16:50:00 agreed 16:50:00 #topic Mailing List size limit increase 16:50:19 so Aaron would like us to increase the size limit. 16:50:20 in my ideal world mailman would be under more active development 16:50:26 and we'd have more flexibility 16:50:41 I think I said my bit on this on the steering list already 16:51:41 changing ML software is more effort than changing the size limit :-) 16:52:01 does sympa handle top/bottom posting and html stripping ? 16:52:45 sympa does all sorts of fancy that I'm happy to talk about during not-meeting 16:53:06 it doesn't butter toast, but it's a modern MLM under active development 16:53:26 anyway you're right -- it's a lot of work 16:53:29 I was hoping to have consensus on this today, but mhrivnak and justis are missing 16:53:37 ??? 16:53:46 * mhrivnak is here 16:53:49 mhrivnak: oh hi :-) 16:53:57 * coxn waves to mhrivnak 16:53:58 I'm more in favor of increasing the limit now. 16:53:59 howdy! 16:54:07 I'm sorry, I didn't see you there :-) 16:54:07 and considering new ML software later. 16:54:17 That would be a huge change. 16:54:29 Many people experience the LUG primarily through the email list. 16:54:48 #action billf will change the ML size limit to 20kB 16:54:50 so we should be very careful adjusting that experience. 16:55:00 mhrivnak: good point 16:55:10 #topic Mail server dropping messages to ML by David Both 16:55:28 alpo had a more in-depth look at this on the weekend. still not sure why 16:56:28 if anyone else can lend a hand, that would be appreaciated. 16:56:51 #topic Keep Membership Contact Email Addresses updated 16:57:22 justis proposed this idea, but do we want to talk about it in IRC or just keep this on email ? 16:57:46 let's flesh it out via email or in-person 16:57:52 is this something we're trying to work into the bylaws? 16:57:59 I think this could have enough moving parts that it's worth taking the time 16:58:02 #topic By-Laws 16:58:19 I'm going to sneak this in to the agenda :-) 16:58:25 ha 16:58:32 the main thing here for me is scheduling an in-person public TriLUG meeting to cover bylaws drafting soon 16:58:40 and soon 16:58:43 we should send email announcement of this and the election, if we haven't already. 16:58:48 as in... next week at the latest, I would think 16:58:59 want me to piggyback election in may email? 16:59:03 or should it be its own thing 16:59:03 yeah we should announce this week, meet next week sort of thing 16:59:07 that's a good idea. It will help motivate completion of the bylaws also. :) 16:59:31 add it to the May election reminder 16:59:37 wait hang on 16:59:49 what day are we having this mini-meeting? 17:00:10 not sure yet. Can we get a room on campus for it? 17:00:21 i can get a room on monday, tuesday, or wednesday of next week. 17:00:37 Wed works best for me. 17:00:49 could make Tues work. 17:00:50 i think michael's vote is most important here. :) 17:00:53 Might have to be late on Mon. 17:01:14 Tuesday is NCSULUG's voting day. :) 17:01:25 oh wait 17:01:28 no that's tomorrow 17:01:35 NCSULUG does nothing really next tuesday 17:01:43 what do others want? 17:02:00 any day is good 17:02:11 are we looking at a wednesday evening then? 17:02:28 I can do either 17:02:41 What time? 17:02:50 depends on where for me 17:02:58 if it's in Raleigh I need more time to make it out 17:03:01 7 for consistency? 17:03:07 similar to monthly meetings? 17:03:15 works for me, but if it's 7pm on Wednesday I will be late 17:03:17 Also do we want to provide some light food? 17:03:23 I have something that runs to 6pm in Carrboro 17:03:33 IsharaComix: that'd be nice 17:03:43 should we ask for RSVP then? 17:03:54 I will be late (about 7:30), but I can get a room. 17:04:01 to know how much food to get? 17:04:06 rsvp seems sensible if we do food 17:04:08 7:30 is fine with me if that's better for you guys. 17:04:22 and if IsharaComix and I are both going to be there around 7:30pm, maybe that should be the start time? 17:04:31 or is that too late? 17:04:33 If you can make it, you can bring the people up to to speed before we get there, but it's your call 17:04:46 let's just do 7:30. 17:04:49 All right. 17:04:58 I'll make the reservation right now. 17:05:24 how many people do we expect? 17:05:37 <15 17:05:40 probably <10 17:05:41 ok, I am out of time, so I will move the remainded to next weeks meeting 17:05:51 #topic general business 17:05:51 ok what was left? 17:05:53 I agree with mhrivnak 17:06:02 * mhrivnak needs to send an invoice this week to ansible 17:06:16 mhrivnak: good idea :-) 17:06:54 oh, we should explicitly request candidates for the SC on the email list. 17:07:12 it's time to recruit. 17:07:22 agreed 17:07:26 uhm 17:07:32 not sure how many vacancies we need to fill, but I'm planning to run again. 17:07:35 ok i am actually going to be on an airplane on wednesday 17:07:41 just realizedx. 17:07:54 are we back to Tuesday then? 17:07:57 does that work? 17:08:01 Yeah. Tuesday is fine. 17:08:02 Tues works for me. 17:08:21 rockin' -- Tuesday it is 17:09:02 good. make it so 17:09:04 I should be honest here and say that I'm close to burnout and am definitely overcommitted, so I'm likely to step down this May if there are enough candidates 17:09:31 I'd like to be an eager and useful SC member emeritus 17:09:39 i know that feel 17:09:51 rather than a cranky and spotty SC member 17:10:02 at NCSULUG when you step down we make up a fake committee for you to serve on indefinitely 17:10:09 heh 17:10:29 but I definitely want to see the June meeting happen and be great 17:10:36 so regardless I'll be putting energy in there 17:11:09 and I suppose I'll put energy into making sure Jack feels ready to take on SC duties 17:12:22 Once I confirm a room, I'll send out about business meeting 17:12:26 #endmeeting