[1:01pm] IsharaComix: #startmeeting
[1:01pm] billf: yay tribot !
[1:01pm] whippythellama: yeah
[1:01pm] IsharaComix: #topic Christmas party, RSVP and Reminders
[1:02pm] IsharaComix: So billf said we've got six people rsvp'd
[1:02pm] jackhill: A reminder seems to be in order
[1:02pm] whippythellama: yeah, IsharaComix - did you have a draft of an rsvp reminder, or
shall i roll one?
[1:02pm] whippythellama: you had mentioned it last meeting
[1:03pm] IsharaComix: Usually we just copy-pasta the blog post for the meeting
[1:03pm] whippythellama: sounds good
[1:03pm] billf: So we can either resend the original email, or make up a new and exciting
one
[1:04pm] whippythellama: original + some new and exciting "hey, wake up!" type text i
think :)
[1:04pm] IsharaComix: New and exciting, eh? Thoughts on how to do that?
[1:04pm] IsharaComix: haha. :D
[1:04pm] whippythellama: i can cook one up
[1:04pm] billf: When I send out the announcement, I start by copying the webpage, and
then I go through and edit it to make it more email friendly, like adding links
to the webpage, etc
[1:05pm] whippythellama: send it to you guys after the meeting, and assuming you're good,
send it on
[1:05pm] IsharaComix: That's fine with me.
[1:05pm] IsharaComix: I think maybe I should hold off on a survey until after this to
avoid survey fatigue
[1:05pm] billf: we have zero demos registerd
[1:05pm] IsharaComix: Oh dear
[1:06pm] whippythellama: #action whippythellama to draft an rsvp reminder email, get sc
approval, and send to the general discussion list
[1:06pm] IsharaComix: Do we want to solicit some demos specifically? I could reach out to
the Raleigh and NCSU makerspaces
[1:06pm] whippythellama: i could make that part of the 'new and exciting' section of the
reminder email
[1:06pm] jackhill: IsharaComix: +1
[1:06pm] IsharaComix: jackhill, I'll do that, then.
[1:07pm] IsharaComix: #action IsharaComix will reach out to makerspaces for demos
[1:08pm] IsharaComix: when do we need to finalize the catering order?
[1:08pm] IsharaComix: 48-hours before?
[1:08pm] whippythellama: about that, yeah
[1:08pm] whippythellama: the attendance numbers will heavily influence the menu,
obviously
[1:08pm] IsharaComix: Right
[1:09pm] whippythellama: i'm also planning on picking up drinks myself, rather than
ordering from neomonde
[1:09pm] whippythellama: they're offering $1.50/can sodas and $9/gal sweet tea
[1:09pm] whippythellama: we can do a lot better with 2-liters
[1:09pm] IsharaComix: Yeah no. Do we want to pick up from Neomonde or have them deliver?
[1:09pm] IsharaComix: I can pick up from neomonde while you get drinks. Parallelize it
[1:09pm] whippythellama: when i call, i'll ask about delivery fees
[1:10pm] whippythellama: cool :)
[1:10pm] IsharaComix: gotcha.
[1:10pm] whippythellama: i'm still aiming at $10/head, cost-wise
[1:11pm] IsharaComix: All right.
[1:11pm] billf: pick up will be less hassel I bet
[1:11pm] IsharaComix: I agree.
[1:11pm] IsharaComix: Anyway, let's touch base on this before the next Tuesday meeting
[1:12pm] IsharaComix: #topic January Meeting
[1:12pm] IsharaComix: Jack, do we want to go ahead and confirm your prezo for January?
[1:13pm] jackhill: sure!!
[1:13pm] IsharaComix: Do we have any idea for sponsors for this meeting?
[1:16pm] whippythellama: none offhand
[1:16pm] IsharaComix: jackhill, either way, can you provide an abstract and bio as per
usual? I think I'll start incorporating planting talks in people's ears during
my role as greeter.
[1:17pm] jackhill: IsharaComix: will do
[1:17pm] IsharaComix: Thanks!
[1:18pm] IsharaComix: #topic survey
[1:18pm] IsharaComix: I've incorporated everyone's ideas from last meeting in my survey,
so it's ready to go out whenever we think we'll get the best response.
[1:19pm] IsharaComix: I'm not sure if holidays are a super great time to send it, though.
[1:19pm] IsharaComix: We can also send it more than once.
[1:19pm] whippythellama: we could couch it as a "welcome to the new year" survey instead
if you think that would be better received
[1:20pm] billf: new year !
[1:20pm] IsharaComix: That's what i was thinking.
[1:20pm] whippythellama: so, just after jan 1
[1:20pm] whippythellama: that following monday, maybe
[1:20pm] IsharaComix: All right. I'll keep that one planned.
[1:21pm] IsharaComix: whippythellama, you said that you sent some topics to the list, but
I didn't see an email.
[1:21pm] billf: #topic SPAM
[1:21pm] billf: Jack and I have gotten trilug off 3 or 4 mail blacklists. We are still on
one of them (Lashback).
[1:21pm] whippythellama: lol
[1:22pm] whippythellama: lemme look...
[1:22pm] IsharaComix: billf, has the root cause been dealt with?
[1:23pm] jackhill: Once we've gotten off of the last blacklist, I'll let Craig of Dash
systems know.
[1:23pm] jackhill: whoops, it looks like I have to run. Catch y'all later
[1:23pm] IsharaComix: jackhill, take care. I'll send you that welcome draft
[1:24pm] billf: we believe so, the account that was being used has had it's password
changed and the logs stopped showing it
[1:24pm] whippythellama: IsharaComix: i see my message in the archive
[1:24pm] IsharaComix: billf, that's good to hear. is there anything we can do proactively
to prevent hijacked accounts from misbehaving?
[1:24pm] IsharaComix: whippythellama, it just arrived. slow is all
[1:25pm] whippythellama: cool
[1:25pm] billf: start asking people to use better passwords, force password rotation or
start forcing ssh keys
[1:26pm] IsharaComix: forcing ssh keys might be better than rotations considering how
rotations have a tendency to encourage bad practices
[1:26pm] billf: I would like a monitoring system to notify us when things start to go bad
[1:26pm] whippythellama: yes
[1:26pm] whippythellama: monitoring
[1:26pm] whippythellama: rate limiting on outbound mail
[1:26pm] billf: denyhosts (or replacement) could also check the mail logs for offenders
[1:26pm] IsharaComix: whippythellama, rate limiting is what I was thinking of, but
monitoring will be more proactive for more nefarious things
[1:26pm] whippythellama: agreed
[1:27pm] whippythellama: depends on the scope
[1:27pm] IsharaComix: Do we want to debrief the membership of what's been going on?
[1:27pm] whippythellama: without disclosing account names, sure
[1:27pm] billf: I think we should display the last few deny host IPs on our webpage along
with geo ip lookups
[1:27pm] IsharaComix: whippythellama, of course. :P
[1:27pm] billf: more transparency is good.
[1:28pm] billf: less work is good too
[1:28pm] IsharaComix: Haha. :)
[1:29pm] billf: let's get off the blacklists first
[1:29pm] IsharaComix: Well, maybe we can include either a postmortem email and mention at
the next full meeting
[1:29pm] IsharaComix: billf, sounds good. :)
[1:29pm] billf: the report could also ask for mail admin help
[1:29pm] • IsharaComix nods
[1:29pm] billf: depends if jack wants some help or not
[1:29pm] billf: #topic General Business
[1:29pm] IsharaComix: OK, we're at time. Are there any topics before we run away?
[1:29pm] billf: Do we have more New Member forms to process this month ?
[1:30pm] whippythellama: i just created a new trello board for action items
[1:30pm] IsharaComix: I think Jack said no.
[1:30pm] IsharaComix: whippythellama, saw it. thanks!
[1:30pm] whippythellama: invited you all, and added the actions we've tossed around today
[1:30pm] whippythellama: feel free to add, edit, etc
[1:30pm] whippythellama: or suggest alternatives - i'm totally open to that :)
[1:31pm] whippythellama: i just wanted *something* to track this stuff
[1:31pm] IsharaComix: This will be very helpful for me.
[1:31pm] whippythellama: that was the intent :)
[1:32pm] IsharaComix: Anything else?
[1:32pm] whippythellama: i think that's all i had
[1:33pm] IsharaComix: Then I think we're good. Thanks everyone!
[1:33pm] billf: got to go
[1:33pm] whippythellama: see you all later