17:59:57 #startmeeting 17:59:57 Meeting started Tue Dec 30 17:59:57 2014 UTC. The chair is isharacomix. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:57 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:10 #chairs isharacomix jackhill billf whippythellama mhrivnak 18:00:18 Meetbot is back up and running. 18:00:32 #topic January Meeting Updates (jack) 18:00:34 @whippythellama++ 18:00:41 Yes, I'm preparing my talk 18:01:11 You mentioned in your email that you wanted to give an update? 18:01:18 It is still in progress (I'm teaching myself many of the things I will share). I've found a few bugs and edge cases… 18:01:21 here 18:01:45 I expect the New Year's holiday to be a boost there. 18:01:52 Heh. :) 18:01:58 This is where most of my TriLUG energy has been going. 18:02:07 one of the benefits of giving a talk is how much you learn in the process of putting it together :) 18:02:14 18:02:18 indeed! 18:02:25 Fair enough. Are there any outstanding tasks you can think of that you want to offload while working on this? 18:02:29 sounds good! 18:02:54 isharacomix: SSL cert replacement 18:02:57 only thing on trello assigned to jackhill is updating the steering wiki 18:03:07 I think that's updated? 18:03:22 haven't checked - i'll look :) 18:03:34 whippythellama: that's more of a long-term task anyway 18:03:49 i got an ssl cert renewal email this morning 18:03:50 the wiki will always need more updateing. I don't know of anything pressing 18:03:55 https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/UpcomingMeetings 18:04:07 sure, only including it for the sake of completeness 18:04:21 jackhill, do you have the box still? 18:04:26 oh yeah, that. Yes, I can do that. 18:04:28 isharacomix: I do. 18:04:49 OK, just double-checking. 18:05:07 I sould remember to bring it with me this time though ;) 18:05:16 That would be optimal. 18:05:17 :) 18:05:30 new member forms to be processed ? 18:05:50 I believe jackhill handled them all in november, and we didn't have any at the party. Am I mistaken? 18:06:06 correct, I do not believe there were any from the party 18:06:10 cool 18:06:35 We will designate tasks at next week's meeting - does anyone know in advance they'll be skipping january? 18:07:10 you mean the main meeting? 18:07:12 yes 18:07:21 i'll be there 18:07:26 I'll be there. 18:08:04 Excellent. 18:08:06 I "should" be there. my sister is visting from aus... 18:08:37 billf, fun! Let us know if anything changes. :) 18:08:53 bring her along! ;) 18:08:55 #topic January hack night? 18:09:18 whippythellama, we do have the room at webassign reserved on 1/15? 18:09:21 jackhill: want to try screen capture streaming for your talk ? 18:09:26 isharacomix: do you mean a infra hack night or a follow up to the talk? 18:09:39 billf: sure, contact me later 18:09:58 isharacomix: actually, i'm going to have to skip hack night this month - 1/15 is my daughter's birthday 18:10:17 unfortunatly, I've scheduled somethine else for that night too :( 18:10:29 i can try to arrange someone else here at webassign to handle it in my stead if you like 18:10:33 jackhill, whippythellama that's a fair point. 18:10:36 or we can make it a virtual hacknight 18:10:40 So here's my opinion: 18:11:03 I like the idea of talk-related hack nights that follow talks, with infra hack nights if the topic doesn't lend itself well to hacking. 18:11:20 That way we have a regular night for projects (similar to tripython). 18:11:38 We can get a feel from the membership what they think using the survey 18:12:02 i have a trello card to figure out the optimal day of the month for us to schedule them 18:12:04 I remember that we wanted to see if another night besides another thursday would work better. 18:12:10 that :) 18:12:12 whippythellama, righto. 18:12:24 okay, so we want to do an "let's get better at editing" session this month? 18:12:36 Just wanted to bring it up front and center. If we want to get the membership to buy-in, we need something consistent. 18:12:46 indeed 18:12:56 jackhill, we could even pitch it as a vi tutorial for more novice folks. 18:13:04 with customization for the veterans 18:14:09 isharacomix: I like it. Date? Venue? 18:14:38 so hack nights will become hands-on follow-ons to our regular meetings, with perhaps a server project on the side for those wanting to help out 18:14:55 whippythellama, i think that allows us to keep a regular meeting time even when no topic is available. 18:15:06 yep 18:15:13 i like that idea 18:15:44 jackhill, maybe webassign, maybe splat space if they'd be willing to host 18:15:52 coupling it with the topic-of-the-month might increase attendance over a generic hack night 18:16:00 whippythellama++ 18:16:01 maybe back-and-forth 18:16:19 ruby brigade bounces between webassign and bronto iirc 18:16:34 durham underground is a cool space. i don't know much about getting it reserved 18:17:40 We can let the idea stew for a bit. Maybe move on to SSL cert? 18:17:56 +1 18:18:00 #topic StartSSL Cert Renewal Email 18:18:12 It looks like the mail.trilug.org cert needs to be replaced. 18:18:24 The documentation for doing so seems reasonable https://steering.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Certificates 18:19:14 Do we need to pay for the renewal? 18:19:43 I don't think so. 18:20:02 Looks like this one only applies to postfix and dovecot, since we use our own for steering wiki 18:20:04 I recall that we previously had an issue where the private key of one or more certs on pilot is world-readable. We should ensure that the new cert is protected from the start by limited read permissions. 18:20:05 alan renewed our certs recently didn't he 18:20:40 I haven't actually look at the cert, I was just going by the fact that we got that email. 18:20:49 At the very least, someone needs to look into it. 18:20:53 i'm looking at the 2013 email chain 18:21:04 alan said that he was happy to renew it this time last year 18:21:26 i thought there was something he did more recently 18:21:52 9/22/2014 18:21:59 [Steering] new SSL certs 18:22:42 "Not After : Jan 13 20:45:10 2015 GMT" 18:23:00 there's a readme on pilot in /etc/ssl/certs-2014-09-22 18:25:35 looks like that's for apache 18:25:56 hrm 18:26:16 well, we don't need to fix it here/now 18:26:25 who's taking the action? 18:27:11 I'll take care of it. I'll follow up with Alan and see what needs to be done. 18:27:57 #action isharacomix to get the mail server certificate renewed 18:28:18 I'll let you all know if I hit any major stumbling blocks 18:28:30 back on the hack night - do we still want to have one this month? 18:28:37 #topic General business 18:28:43 it sounded like we wanted to, but just not on 1/15 18:28:56 sorry for crossing topics like that :) 18:29:03 It's fine. Almost out of time anyway 18:29:13 I think that's the general sentiment 18:29:35 ok, should we shoot for 1/22 - just push it out a week? 18:29:42 works for me 18:29:58 seems reasonable. 18:30:04 whippythellama, do you want to take responsibility for making sure that doesn't coincide with other tech events? 18:30:06 webassign okay with everyone? 18:30:24 sure, i'll double check the local tech calendars 18:30:27 awesome 18:30:31 FWIW 1/22 is the tripython meeting night. Not sure if that matters. 18:30:40 thanks, mhrivnak 18:30:42 I'll be at tripython because my project is being presented. :) 18:30:52 #action whippythellama to figure out a good night for this month's hack night 18:30:55 mhrivnak, that's the kind of thing i'm talking about. I was planning on going, too. :) 18:31:19 All right. We're at time. 18:31:21 yep, i'll check the local meetings and see what will minimize conflicts 18:31:24 #endmeeting