[TriLUG] C# and .NET

[Robby Dermody]

I guess with C# and the open source attention it's been getting, I was/am
excited that it just might be the next good language to transition to. As
Andrew noted, Java is nice, but most people have been there/done that (I
remember the amazing amount of hype it got years ago), and it still isn't
fast enough for most (me included from what I saw of it less than a year
back). The Java compilers got me excited, but it never seemed that the
language really caught on to supplant C/C++, past the Corporate zone with
Servlets. I think I big reason for this was Sun's refusal to give power over
the language up to an independent standards committee. C# might be the same
deal, and MS hovering over it scares the heck out of me, but at the same
time DotGNU and Mono intrigue me for this same reason.

We'll see what turns out,

Robby

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoliver at apache.org>
To: <trilug at trilug.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] C# and .NET


> I liked what Sam said best:
>
> "If you want to write one program for 7 different platforms, use Java.
>  If you want to write a program for 1 platform
> using 7 different language, use .NET"
>
> Sam while he gave a very nice technical analysis of .NET and pointed out
> advantages over Java, in the end he said he
> still does all his work (minus what he must do for his role as ECMA
> convener for the .NET reference committee) in Java and has no plans to
> switch to C#.
>
> Still, I'm not satisfied with Java for many reasons.  For one it has yet
> to achieve its perforamance promises (yes I know what Sun's benchmarks
> say, but I assure you they are BS).  Ultimately I find my bleeding edge
> flirtation will go towards:
>
> http://www.opend.org - "D"
>
> -Andy
>
> >
> > > However, the Mono and dotGNU attempts to build
> >
> >> portable C# compilers and .NET frameworks sounds very exciting to me. I
> >> think Microsoft, as usual, might try to be a big pain in the behind
over
> >> control of the specs/framework and will try to make the lives of the
> >> people
> >> working on this open software alternative very difficult. This keeps
> >> me wary
> >
> >
> > <BLATANT_JAVA_PLUG>
> > Why bother...do you have something against Java (or Sun)?
> > There are only a few minor differences between the syntax of
> > Java and C#...Java has a mature market and lots of _great_
> > developer tools...including open source implementations of
> > JVMs, appservers, IDEs and a wide variety of development
> > frameworks, utilities and class libaries.
> >
> > Obviously, I'm a Java developer...so I'm more than a little
> > biased...but why re-invent all the wheels?
> >
> > Despite some bad press, Sun has been very cooperative with
> > open-source...especially of late.  Cooperation with open
> > source groups is unthinkable from Microsoft.
> > </BLATANT_JAVA_PLUG>
> >
> > *********************************
> > Chris Merrill
> > cmerrill at nc.rr.com
> > *********************************
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