[TriLUG] UPS Batteries

Jason Tower jason at cerient.net
Wed Oct 23 11:39:48 EDT 2002 

not a bad idea.  i vaguely remember a thread about this a month or so ago, can 
you or anyone else post (or re-post) info on how to accomplish that?  the 
trilug website make no mention of it that i could find.  thanks

jason

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 09:48, Vestal, Roy L. wrote:
> Putem on the TriLUG bid site!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Tower [mailto:jason at cerient.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:37 AM
> To: trilug at trilug.org
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] UPS Batteries
>
>
> i recently bought replacement batteries for three UPSs at batteries plus,
> they
> even took in the old ones for recycling.  all three now work good as new.
> almost all UPSs use standard size batts, so it's usually a drop in
> replacement.  you just need to know the stats (12V7AH or whatever) or the
> physical size of each cell.
>
> i'm using one of the units myself, but the other two are up for grabs if
> anyone is interested.  one is a small APC back-ups 280 (good for a single
> pc)
> the other is a big honkin 1000VA unit with six outlets and a serial comm
> port.  $60 for the former, $250 for the latter.
>
> jason
>
> On Wednesday 23 October 2002 08:21, Ryan Leathers wrote:
> > I need some
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Flanagan [mailto:kevin at flanagannc.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:23 AM
> > To: trilug at trilug.org
> > Subject: RE: [TriLUG] UPS Batteries
> >
> > Morning,
> >
> >         I too have a UPS with dead batteries, I looked into a
> > replacement set, but it was going to be just over a hundred dollars.
> >
> >         How many others, and can we team up when buying batteries to
> > drive the cost down?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > +------------------------------------------+
> > "I'll do the stupid thing first and then you shy people follow."
> >      ~~Frank Zappa
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: trilug-admin at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-admin at trilug.org] On
> > > Behalf Of al johson
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:34 AM
> > > To: trilug at trilug.org
> > > Subject: Re: [TriLUG] UPS Batteries
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, sorry I missed this thread before the last Cary Amateur Radio
> > > Club meeting in Cary, because I could have invited you to a
> > > program which the
> > > club held on just this subject: fixing UPS systems primarily by simply
> > > replacing the batteries. Actually if you know where to look,
> > > the batteries
> > > you need are rather easy to obtain. And they can be bought
> > > very cheaply if
> > > you buy them in pallets. Sorry I don't remember the precise
> > > source that the
> > > speaker recommended, but I do know his name and if there is still any
> > > interest in this subject, I'd be happy to email him and find out this
> > > information for the group. There is also a way to rejuvenate
> > > a lot of the
> > > batteries that go bad in UPS's, if you're handy with some
> > > simple tools. This
> > > may differ slightly with the particular batteries that are in
> > > your UPS, but
> > > if it is a Yuasa battery, all you have to do is to take note
> > > of the solid
> > > plastic cover that covers the top of each battery, then
> > > carefully take a
> > > screwdriver and break the glue sealing this top to the bottom
> > > case of the
> > > battery. After you've done that you will note that this
> > > battery looks much
> > > like your car battery with several individual cells. Most of
> > > these batteries
> > > are sealed lead acid batteries. The major problem is that the
> > > water in some
> > > these cells may have evaporated during use. While this may or
> > > may not work
> > > depending on how badly the battery is damaged, you simply
> > > have to obtain
> > > some distilled water and punch a hole small enough to refill
> > > each cell (some
> > > will probably need more water than others). DO NOT USE
> > > ORDINARY TAP WATER TO
> > > FILL THEM. Then when you've filled all of them you can glue
> > > the cover back
> > > on and recharge the battery using preferable the UPS the
> > > charger in the UPS
> > > itself.
> > > YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THIS TO BE AN EXPERIMENTAL PROCESS WHICH
> > > MAY OR MAY NOT
> > > WORK. But considering how inexpensive it is to try (assuming
> > > you do this
> > > OUTSIDE) and WEAR EYE PROTECTION WHILE RECHARGING the
> > > batteries, it is very
> > > safe indeed. Naturally this is not as good as simply
> > > replacing the batteries
> > > with new ones (which are indeed available if you know how to look in
> > > ELECTRONIC battery catalogues). The gentleman who put on this
> > > program for
> > > the Cary Amateur Radio Club, said that theoretically you
> > > should never have
> > > to buy any UPS, because so many corporations just throw them
> > > away in their
> > > dumpsters whenever their batteries go bad. And if you're
> > > lucky enough to
> > > work at such a corporation you can salvage them, replace the
> > > batteries and
> > > have what amounts to a perfectly new UPS.  He also said that
> > > he has a house
> > > full of these things which he has salvaged and uses to put
> > > all his computers
> > > on clean battery power (no CP&L power spikes for his
> > > computers). There is
> > > one place where you can buy used UPS's and that is an Amateur
> > > Radio Hamfest.
> > > Hams recycle just about everything electronic and there are
> > > almost always
> > > several used ones which have been rescued from the dumpsters
> > > offered for
> > > sale very cheap. Really sorry I missed this message
> > > earlier.---Al Johnson.
> > > --=--------------------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Beimler" <john at radiomind.com>
> > > To: <trilug at trilug.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [TriLUG] UPS Batteries
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 10:25, Steve Kuekes wrote:
> > > > > I have two UPS's that recently quit UPSing.  It appears that the
> > > > > batteries are dead.  Is there a way to replace the
> > >
> > > batteries without
> > >
> > > > > getting a whole new UPS?  Or I can just wait for a sale
> > >
> > > at Best Buy
> > > again.
> > >
> > > > There is a battery place near the corner of Maynard and
> > >
> > > High House in
> > >
> > > > Cary across the street from the Kroger, I think its name is
> > > > Battery Plus.  Anyhow, I got replacement batteries for a
> > > > industrial
> > >
> > > UPS there at
> > >
> > > > one point, but it was expensive.
> > > >
> > > > Peace.
> > > >
> > > > john
> > > >
> > > >
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Jason Tower
Cerient Technologies
jason at cerient.net

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