[TriLUG] Unix freaks, check out this hardware vendor

[Reginald Reed]

For things such as disk drives, Sun doesn't have any special parts.
They are the same thing you can buy elsewhere for *MUCH* cheaper with
the same MTBF.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-admin at trilug.org 
> [mailto:trilug-admin at trilug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Schaefer
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:17 PM
> To: trilug at trilug.org
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Unix freaks, check out this hardware vendor
> 
> 
> When I last worked on an E450, it was using a copper
> pin hot swap connector for its disk drives.  No FCAL
> needed.  Things may have changed since then. 
> Certainly, FCAL was available, but at the time, only
> for external storage.
> 
> Sun equipment is vastly more expensive than PC
> equipment.  It is usually more reliable, as well.  You
> can make up for that margin of reliability by building 
> redundant systems out of PC components, but you have to 
> decide if the extra complexity and $$ for a competent 
> sysadmin to build and run it for you is worth it. As a 
> competent sysadmin, I think it usually is :-).  If you don't 
> need that reliability, and you don't need software that runs 
> only on a SPARC, the conclusion is fairly obvious.
> 
> If you need a very large system, like the Sun E10000
> with Oracle finely tuned to take every advantage of
> it, then it will probably be a better value buying the
> Sun than designing and building it yourself from PC
> components.
> 
>     - Stephen P. Schaefer
>  
> --- Jeremy Portzer <jeremyp at pobox.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 12:04, Chris Hedemark wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 11:56 AM, Jeremy
> > Portzer wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The sun store (http://store.sun.com) lists the
> > "36-GB 10000 RPM
> > > > UltraSCSI Disk Drive" for $1300.   (The one I
> > selected is compatible
> > > > with the E450; I just sort of chose that at
> > random.)  So I suppose
> > > > $1000
> > > > isn't out-of-line given that list price.
> > > 
> > > IIRC, the E450 uses FC-AL drives which would drive
> > the price up.
> > 
> > Good point, but it only raises the price a little
> > from the U320 drives.
> > A Fujitsu FC-AL-2 drive with the same specs is only
> > $276 for example.
> >
> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10312384&hdwt=30401&loc=101
> > 
> > --Jeremy
> > 
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