[TriLUG] OT: Mac OS X list?

[John Turner]

I will give you a short answer because I have to head to work. When 
NeXT designed the OS in the 90s they decided to write a windowing 
system because they had some issues with X. Even back then there was an 
XServer.app for NeXTSTEP. So when Apple bought NeXT and turned it into 
OS X they didn't switch to X Windows they keep the same windowing 
system and enhanced it. I get the feeling that if you ask Jobs why 
Apple doesn't use X Windows, he would say because Aqua is better.

John

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 10:55 PM, al johson wrote:

> Well, there's only one reason I can think of that might mean this 
> "gordian
> knot" might be able to be cut, and that is that there is already a 
> solution.
> I've got to wonder what was going through the designers of OSX at 
> Apple, if
> it wasn't possible to somehow use all the "UNIX GUI software" (for 
> lack of a
> better description) on OSX then the advantage of being able to use 
> UNIX  GUI
> programs would obviously be severely handicapped.
>
>     Put more simply, Don't you think they at least discussed this 
> problem
> when they were designing the OSX system??  Well, maybe they concluded 
> that
> you could just load X-windows on top of OSX. But knowing the inovator 
> Jobs
> is, I wouldn't be surprised if that were the ONLY solution. It just 
> seems to
> be a waste of code to have to use TWO GUI's running at the same time 
> on the
> same system. But I'm certainly not an expert on this, as you can tell. 
> But
> just suppose there is an easier way to go?? There are after-all lots of
> Gui's you can choose from in Linux itself. ---Al Johnson.
> ==============================
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT: Mac OS X list?
>
>
>> On 6 Nov 2002, Tanner Lovelace wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Long answer: Both Gnome and KDE are very dependent upon X.  Even if 
>>> you
>>> get a native version of QT or GTK (the underlying widget sets), you
>>> still have other dependencies on X that can't be resolved all that
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> However, there is an X server that lets you use X apps just like
>>> native Aqua apps (don't remember the name right now, but it starts
>>> with an O and sounds a bit like October?), if that's what you're
>>> after.
>>
>> OroboroSX might be what you're thinking of.
>>
>> http://oroborosx.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> badger at trilug
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