[TriLUG] OT: Mac OS X list?

[al johson]

Thanks John, you've basically cleared up the entire puzzle!! --Al Johnson.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Turner" <jdturner at nc.rr.com>
To: <trilug at trilug.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT: Mac OS X list?


> I will give you a short answer because I have to head to work. When 
> NeXT designed the OS in the 90s they decided to write a windowing 
> system because they had some issues with X. Even back then there was an 
> XServer.app for NeXTSTEP. So when Apple bought NeXT and turned it into 
> OS X they didn't switch to X Windows they keep the same windowing 
> system and enhanced it. I get the feeling that if you ask Jobs why 
> Apple doesn't use X Windows, he would say because Aqua is better.
> 
> John
> 
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 10:55 PM, al johson wrote:
> 
> > Well, there's only one reason I can think of that might mean this 
> > "gordian
> > knot" might be able to be cut, and that is that there is already a 
> > solution.
> > I've got to wonder what was going through the designers of OSX at 
> > Apple, if
> > it wasn't possible to somehow use all the "UNIX GUI software" (for 
> > lack of a
> > better description) on OSX then the advantage of being able to use 
> > UNIX  GUI
> > programs would obviously be severely handicapped.
> >
> >     Put more simply, Don't you think they at least discussed this 
> > problem
> > when they were designing the OSX system??  Well, maybe they concluded 
> > that
> > you could just load X-windows on top of OSX. But knowing the inovator 
> > Jobs
> > is, I wouldn't be surprised if that were the ONLY solution. It just 
> > seems to
> > be a waste of code to have to use TWO GUI's running at the same time 
> > on the
> > same system. But I'm certainly not an expert on this, as you can tell. 
> > But
> > just suppose there is an easier way to go?? There are after-all lots of
> > Gui's you can choose from in Linux itself. ---Al Johnson.
> > ==============================
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <burnett at pobox.com>
> > To: <trilug at trilug.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT: Mac OS X list?
> >
> >
> >> On 6 Nov 2002, Tanner Lovelace wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>> Long answer: Both Gnome and KDE are very dependent upon X.  Even if 
> >>> you
> >>> get a native version of QT or GTK (the underlying widget sets), you
> >>> still have other dependencies on X that can't be resolved all that
> >>> easily.
> >>>
> >>> However, there is an X server that lets you use X apps just like
> >>> native Aqua apps (don't remember the name right now, but it starts
> >>> with an O and sounds a bit like October?), if that's what you're
> >>> after.
> >>
> >> OroboroSX might be what you're thinking of.
> >>
> >> http://oroborosx.sourceforge.net/
> >>
> >> badger at trilug
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