[TriLUG] [OT] propane BBQs by my Window

[ryan.wheaton at attbi.com]

>On Friday 09 May 2003 Sinner said:
>For myself, my eyes flip everytime I see here a post about Windows in this 
>list. 

   Really?!  I haven't noticed.

;-)
> On Friday 09 May 2003 12:00 pm, Justin Johnson wrote:
> > In this instance, the question is about SSH, which is
> > open source,
> 
> As far as I know, SSH is a proprietary solution. OpenSSH, on the other hand, 
> is an OpenSource solution. And Windows is not OpenSource. And typing "buy 
> sshd for windows" on google gives a good answer (I guess, as I don't do 
> Windows) --> http://www.foxitsoftware.com/wac/server_intro.asp
> 
> For myself, my eyes flip everytime I see here a post about Windows in this 
> list. I guess by now most of the people in the list are grown up enough and 
> can see that mixing Windows and Linux is a sure way to build angriness in 
> some people. 
> 
> Windows has its place. Linux has its place.
> 
> What happens when somebody gives a presentation at TriLUG with a Windows 
> laptop? Wooing, finger-pointing, general laughter, shouts of "use a real OS!" 
> and all this stuff. That's my experience in the last 2+ years at TriLUG 
> meetings.
> 

> The post on SSHD is about helping someone with a Windows problem. Trying to 
> get the "it also is about Open source if you squeeze your eyes" 
> kind-of-reasoning is just trying to be the devil's advocate.
> 
> Well, for a Windows problem, Windows list. Or Windows newsgroup. Or Windows 
> WebBoard. Or general-software-and-or-OS list|newsgroup|website. Or regular 
> off-the-shelf-payware software.
> 
> With this "BBQ post" I want to start a discussion about what is or is not this 
> list. You want Windows stuff be on the list, because someone in the list sure 
> groks Windows? Fine. But not with me. I do not think it's appropriate. At 
> all.
> 
> Have you ever tried to ask a Linux question on a Windows list? You haven't? 
> Why? Exactly. You know that it doesn't belong there. You know that you will 
> be scorned, flammed and called names. At least. Because "Linux is the enemy".
> 
> Examine yourselves, do not try to find "the opensource trail" in 
> unappropriated questions, because OpenSource is everywhere: Windows use(d) 

> the TCP/IP stack from BSD, so we could argue that anything related to Windows 
> is fair game, as Windows uses OpenSource code.
> 
> Do not be the devil's advocate in such a blatant way. If the devil wants an 
> advocate, let Uncle Bill foot the bill for an expensive attorney.
> 
> I switched to Linux because I do not like the Windows way, its philosophy, 
> it's abusive licenses... The last thing I expect while on a Linux group is 
> Windows discussion. 
> 
> In short: I guess we need to enhance the point 3.4 on 
> http://www.trilug.org/faq/TriLUG-faq-3.html#ss3.4
> 
> Now, you can flame me, call me names (again) and generally enjoy your Friday.
> 
> 
> Salut,
> Sinner
> -- 
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