[TriLUG] Debian installation.

[Ben Pitzer]

Bill,

This is actually a good suggestion.  Installing Woody first is typically the
best way to go.  From there, it's easy to apt-get dist-upgrade to either
Sarge or Sid.  The installation process for either of those is just
unnecessary.  As for Sarge, count on there being bugs in it.  It's called
'testing' for a reason.  It's still not as bug free as they would like a
release candidate to be.  Sid is pure development, and therefore not only
can you count on bugs, you can count on it some packages being practically
unusable.  Which is why I say that you should not use it in production, and
it is released only as a way for the community to help beta test what will
eventually go into the 'testing' distro if it ever gets stable enough for
that.

Again, my tupence.  Thanks for listening.

BTW, Bill, yeah, I'm that guy.  Dunno about the Debian "expert" label, but I
do try.

Regards,
Ben Pitzer

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"Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
 deserve neither liberty nor safety."
 --Ben Franklin--








  -----Original Message-----
  From: trilug-admin at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-admin at trilug.org]On Behalf Of
Bill Gooding
  Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:26 PM
  To: trilug at trilug.org
  Subject: [TriLUG] Debian installation.


  Hi,

  This reply is for Ken (who was considering installing Debian) and Ben.
Ben suggested you go with the sarge distribution.  I would say that you
should not use the sarge installation process given on the debian.org page.
I actually tried it when I was working on the Woody installation.  I figured
that I would probably be working with the testing (sarge) distribution
anyway.  When I tried the sarge installation process, it failed to mount my
swap space.  Later research into it showed that the sarge install is built
weekly.  I think they may have a bug in it.

  I basically agree with Ben though.  But use the Woody installation, and
read over my original comments (they may help).  Once you have installed
woody then use apt-get to upgrade your distribution if you like.

  Bill Gooding


  // Original post

  Ken,

  Debian unstable is NOT for production use.  Honestly, I'd go with Sarge
  (testing) if I were you.  Folks who use unstable (Sid) are expected to do
  bug reports regularly, and really participate in the development process
in
  that manner.  If you're willing to do that, and have your machine be
  bleeding edge, but always have the potential to break, lockup, etc., go
for
  it.  But the community view is that there is a feedback and assistance
  responsibility that is expected of Debian Unstable users.  That being
said,
  do what you like, but be warned that asking for help in any Debian forum
  will probably get you shorter shrift than usual as an unstable user.

  Regards,
  Ben Pitzer

  ---------------------------------------------

  "Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
  safety
  deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  --Ben Franklin--




  > -----Ori ginal Message-----
  > From: trilug-admin at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-admin at trilug.org]On Behalf
  > Of Ken Wahl
  > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:49 PM
  > To: trilug at trilug.org
  > Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Debian installation.
  >
  >
  > Thanks, this was useful for me.  I've been a Red Hat user since 6.2 and
  > I was thinking of giving Debian unstable a whirl.  I wanted to ask for
  > this very type of feedback from RedHat users about their experiences
  > installing Debian but was afraid the question would come off as a troll
  > and/or start a distro war.
  > --
  > Ken Wahl  ken at kenwahl.org  http://www.k enwahl.org
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