[TriLUG] Announcement: New NCSU Linux Users Group Forming

[Chris Bullock]

Some of his guidelines are fairly harsh, but I feel that this is what 
true beginners need.  I from personal experience have received the RTFM 
one liner as a reply to a newbie question that I have had.  Also, some 
people in this group are very hasty in making a person frustrated by 
offering off base solutions to a very simple problem.  As more features 
are being added to Linux daily there will be no need for manual editing 
of conf files or command line commands.  He stated that this was for 
desktop users.  If Linux wants to go main stream this is the site for 
them.  Once everything can be done in the GUI or by clicking an icon, 
you will see Linux explode as a desktop OS.  I dont know exactly what 
the criteria is for being a member but I hope I fall into it.

my $.02
Chris

Jon Carnes wrote:

>Sounds more like an "anti-group" than a pro-interest group.  You might
>want to work on your charter a little and make it more positive. "The
>enemy of my enemy" works fine for awhile, but unless you have some
>positive goals you are not going to grow or maintain membership.
>
>How about something like a local Linux Applications Group, where you
>specialize on the applications that make Linux fun and easy to use.
>Beginners and cross-over users (those windows folks) are all welcome.
>All of us are beginners at some time or another, so come ease your
>transition into the new world of Linux and Open Source with LAG (or
>NCLAG)
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>Good Luck.
>
>On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 00:34, Ilan Volow wrote:
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>>I am forming a new Linux users group at NC State called NOSUL (North 
>>Carolina Organization Of Students Using Linux) whose aim is to 
>>cultivate a true, end-user oriented desktop Linux experience for NC 
>>State students and faculty.
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>>First Rule Of NOSUL: NOSUL is not a unix group
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>>Second Rule Of NOSUL: NOSUL is not a unix group.
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>>Third Rule: No terminals or command lines at meetings. We do things 
>>graphically and desktopically.
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>>Fourth Rule: vi, emacs, and shell scripts do not exist.
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>>Fifth Rule: it is okay to be a beginner. RTFM (Read The Fine Manual) is 
>>to be considered a four-letter word. There are no stupid end users 
>>(just stupid programmers).
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>>Sixth Rule: it is okay to run operating systems other than Linux at 
>>meetings, both in the capacity of audience member and presenter.
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>>Seventh Rule: it is okay, and in fact encouraged, to criticize unusable 
>>and badly designed Open Source Software and any projects or companies 
>>that produce it.
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>>If you’ve made it past the first seven rules of NOSUL and haven’t 
>>deleted this message in total disgust, contact Ilan at 
>>nosul at clarux.com. We’ll need to schedule a time for everyone interested 
>>to meet, discuss our ideas for the upcoming semester, and to appoint 
>>the officers necessary to become a registered student organization.
>>
>>--Ilan Volow
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