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[Reginald Reed]

Jon,

Excellent point and valid.  In my situation (Cisco Systems) - we
handle this by hiring a broad range of levels.  The lower levels
generally have a lot more "not so fun" work than the higher levels. 
Culture also plays a large part in this as well.  In some companies as
large as Cisco, seeing a manager or high ranking engineer racking
equipment in the lab alongside other employees would be a rarity, but
it happens frequently here.  Its all about getting the job done. 
Sometimes I rack gear while my engineers are solving complex problems
that are far more important than getting stuff racked.

--Reggie 


On 19 Nov 2004 11:53:15 -0500, Jon Carnes <jonc at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:35, Reginald Reed wrote:
> 
> 
> > Yes, I agree here - hiring the best and brightest is what *all*
> > companies want to do.  In order to do this, you must be attractive to
> > the top talent because:
> >
> > * They are already employed
> > * They are probably being treated well by their current employer
> > (sometimes this isn't the case if the employer is clueless or stupid)
> > * They can get jobs fairly quickly in other places
> >
> > Of course once you have the top talent, you have to retain them, but
> > thats a completely different discussion.
> >
> > Just my nickle as a manager.
> 
> Not to throw a monkey wrench in here, but really most companies don't
> want the best/brightest. They want a wide variety of folks depending on
> the job to be filled.
> 
> You certainly don't want someone who will be bored and quit when you
> have a mindless drudge of a job that must be done. And sometimes merely
> adequate - but with some experience so they can start immediately - is
> exactly what an employer wants.
> 
> When I hire, the key criteria I look for are:
>  - plays well with others
>  - honest
>  - can work without excess management
>  - basic ability to solve problems
>  - *wants* to work for me...
> 
> I don't really care if they are the top of their class or the brightest
> in the industry; though for some jobs I do want them to have a little
> ambition so that as the job grows they are motivated to grow with it.
> BTW: I always expect to have to train them - no matter what their past
> experience.
> 
> Jon Carnes
> 
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