[TriLUG] Job at Google, in California or Ireland

Reginald Reed reginald.reed at gmail.com
Fri Nov 19 14:17:00 EST 2004


Apologies for responding to my own mail, but I meant to add that we
still try to hire the best and brightest at all levels.  Judging who
the best and brightest are when they don't have a lot of proof of it
(real work experience and accomplishments) is a bit of a science but
its still a goal we try to achieve.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:13:56 -0500, Reginald Reed
<reginald.reed at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jon,
> 
> Excellent point and valid.  In my situation (Cisco Systems) - we
> handle this by hiring a broad range of levels.  The lower levels
> generally have a lot more "not so fun" work than the higher levels.
> Culture also plays a large part in this as well.  In some companies as
> large as Cisco, seeing a manager or high ranking engineer racking
> equipment in the lab alongside other employees would be a rarity, but
> it happens frequently here.  Its all about getting the job done.
> Sometimes I rack gear while my engineers are solving complex problems
> that are far more important than getting stuff racked.
> 
> --Reggie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Nov 2004 11:53:15 -0500, Jon Carnes <jonc at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:35, Reginald Reed wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Yes, I agree here - hiring the best and brightest is what *all*
> > > companies want to do.  In order to do this, you must be attractive to
> > > the top talent because:
> > >
> > > * They are already employed
> > > * They are probably being treated well by their current employer
> > > (sometimes this isn't the case if the employer is clueless or stupid)
> > > * They can get jobs fairly quickly in other places
> > >
> > > Of course once you have the top talent, you have to retain them, but
> > > thats a completely different discussion.
> > >
> > > Just my nickle as a manager.
> >
> > Not to throw a monkey wrench in here, but really most companies don't
> > want the best/brightest. They want a wide variety of folks depending on
> > the job to be filled.
> >
> > You certainly don't want someone who will be bored and quit when you
> > have a mindless drudge of a job that must be done. And sometimes merely
> > adequate - but with some experience so they can start immediately - is
> > exactly what an employer wants.
> >
> > When I hire, the key criteria I look for are:
> >  - plays well with others
> >  - honest
> >  - can work without excess management
> >  - basic ability to solve problems
> >  - *wants* to work for me...
> >
> > I don't really care if they are the top of their class or the brightest
> > in the industry; though for some jobs I do want them to have a little
> > ambition so that as the job grows they are motivated to grow with it.
> > BTW: I always expect to have to train them - no matter what their past
> > experience.
> >
> > Jon Carnes
> >
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