[TriLUG] SSN for applying to jobs -OT about credit-

[Turnpike Man]

wow... I woulda told them the same thing!  :)

--- "gregbrown at mindspring.com" <gregbrown at mindspring.com> wrote:

> 
> I'm against it too.  The company that I applied at told me exactly what they
> wanted to do and why and had me sign a form that I agreeded to the credit
> check in the first place.  In this instance I did sign the forms after
> speaking with the owner of the company who expalined his position on the
> matter.  Plus he actually asked.  But having people check it without asking
> is BS and I'd like to know if it is legal or not.  
> 
> Here is a breakdown of the conversation with another company regarding the
> same topic that I recently had:
> 
> company: We need your SSN.
> Greg: Why?  I haven't accepted a position and therefore I have no tax records
> that need to be filled out.
> company: oh, we use that to ensure that a name does is not entered in the
> database multiple times.
> Greg: Then use the primary key in the table containing the names as the key
> to search for.  
> company: What?
> Greg: You see.. when you create an entry in a database table..... <blah> long
> time </blah>
> company: We can't do it that way.  We need your SSN.
> Greg: No.  You have my address, use that.  No other "Greg Browns" reside
> there.
> company: It's a requirement.  We need your SSN.  What if we need to contact
> you in the future and you have moved?
> Greg: Well, if you need to contact me you're not going to send a letter to my
> SSN.  Can I have a copy of your company handbook detailing the HR policies
> that state this requirement for pre-employment and exactly what that data is
> used for?  
> company: Why?
> Greg: I want to show it to my attorney.
> company: I have another call I have to take, we'll get back with you.
> 
> And I never heard back from them again.
> 
> In the UK (and EU I think) this kind of thing is called Personally
> Identifiable Information, aka PII, and you CANNOT collect it.  It's the law
> and it is fairly clear.  I wish we would adopt the same law here.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Turnpike Man <turnpike420 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Nov 24, 2004 3:10 PM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list <trilug at trilug.org>
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] SSN for applying to jobs -OT about credit-
> 
> I'm no expert here folks, but learn about credit.  For example, if you are
> mortgage shopping from multiple brokers to find the best deal and applying
> for
> preapprovals, etc., that's just another way lots of credit checks can show up
> on your credit report in a very small amount of time.  However, you need to
> know that b/c all those checks were of the same type and squeezed into that
> small amount of time, it doesn't dbl, triple, quadruple the credit points
> against you.  Some would even say it's looked at as one instance.  Call your
> credit experts for more details.  Again, I am NOT a credit expert!!
> 
> Now as far as them doing it without permission?  If that is legal, I'm
> against
> it.
> 
> later,
> David
> 
> --- Michael Thompson <thompson at easternrad.com> wrote:
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> > Thats scary, I never realized it was legal to run someone's credit
> > without permission...  WTF?
> > 
> > - --mike
> > 
> > 
> > gregbrown at mindspring.com wrote:
> > 
> > | That's probably exactly what they are doing: running a pre-screening
> > credit check.  Go ahead and ask them outright.  They should have to ask
> > for premission.  It ticks me off too because having too many credit
> > checks in a short time period can actually lower your credit score but a
> > little bit.  If I apply to two dozen shops in a week I don't want 24
> > checks in that same time period.
> > |
> > | Ugh.
> > |
> > | Greg
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