[TriLUG] Sat. Installfest

[David McDowell]

I believe William sees clearly what I was trying to say.  But that
aside, let me make one thing clear:

Ian, I do not speak on behalf of TriLUG, so you need to remove that
missconception now, and I am NOT a steering committee member of
TriLUG, so throwing your comments at the TriLUG organization for
having a "superiority complex" is way out of line.  TriLUG has no such
atitude.  You want to fuel the fire, you need to have a personal
discussion with me.  I spoke on behalf of myself as a member of this
community.  I also know I am not the only person who thought this way.

Ian, let me also quote myself "TriLUG has far greater reaching power
than LUG at NCSU (no offense NCSU folks, please take this with a grain of
salt)."  This was not said to take away from NCSULUG, though I can see
how it does and I apologize for that.  However, taken "with a grain of
salt" you will see my perspective and position regarding TriLUG and
this event, thus not an "attack" on NCSULUG (or "attack" on TriLUG for
that matter).  My point was clearly made and already addressed in this
thread.  If this does not bring you satisfaction, please let us
continue OFF list.

Thanks,
David McD


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 05:49:41 -0500 (EST), William Sutton
<william at trilug.org> wrote:
> Ian, I'd like to weigh in here.
> 
> I wasn't at the Installfest on Saturday.  I wish I could have been, but
> (for those who aren't aware) job circumstances have relocated me to
> Hunstville, Alabama.  It's a bit of a hike to Raleigh.
> 
> That said, I remember last year's Installfest at Wake Tech.  We had so
> many people (and computers) there that we shut down a power circuit in the
> room.  jtower personally accused me of sucking the life out of it with two
> monitors and a dual-Xeon tower.
> 
> Comparing that with accounts of (maximum) 5 TriLUG members over the course
> of a day, I think what was said below was fair, and not in any slight to
> the NCSU folks.  I think it was said in perspective of past efforts, and
> not to attach either group.
> 
> >From the accounts I've read on this thread, I think TriLUG can do better.
> I wish I could help, but right now I'm not in a position to do so.
> 
> William
> 
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Ian Meyer wrote:
> 
> > That's what I heard.
> >
> > And if this is the sentiment from TriLUG overall (which I hope and
> > think that it isn't) I guess we (LUG at NCSU) don't have to worry about
> > working with you guys in the future.
> >
> > It had been discussed to do something like this in the past, and this
> > was the attitude that we talked about, and why we decided not to do
> > it. Sure we may be small, but do pretty darn well for our size. Before
> > you go spouting off about distros and networks, take a look at
> > Harrelson G108 and the local mirror (I believe its
> > mirror.linux.ncsu.edu, and it may be restricted to the NCSU IP block).
> > Its got a killer network, fat pipe, and always works without a hitch.
> >
> > The PXE/DHCP box I'm sure was convenient and helpful, but without it,
> > things wouldn't have fallen apart as more than one person has
> > mentioned. We've managed to get through plenty of installfests on our
> > own, and it looks like we'll keep it that way.
> >
> > Sure, more notice would have been great, but you know what, that
> > wasn't our fault. Don't lump it in with your perceived problems on our
> > end. We were approached and asked if TriLUG could "share" our
> > intstallfest, with the hopes that both our groups would benefit. I
> > would dare say that we benefited from having more people there than we
> > would have had, and TriLUG benefitted from having a great space to
> > use. If it was underutilized, thats not our fault.
> >
> > Heather-- If you're out there, and I've overstepped my bounds, by all
> > means, step in and say something, but I for one, will not be
> > supporting working with TriLUG again until we can get this superiority
> > complex sorted out.
> >
> > ~Ian Meyer
> > LUG at NCSU
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:40:49 -0500, Tanner Lovelace
> > <clubjuggler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:46:20 -0500, David McDowell
> > > <turnpike420 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > TriLUG, we can do better.  To me, this past weekend felt like a
> > > > cop-out from the get-go.  TriLUG rested on the shoulders of NCSU
> > > > (which also felt like nearly the last minute piggy-back in comparison
> > > > to previous TriLUG Installfests).  Then small turnout and almost no
> > > > support from the vast TriLUG resource is saddening.  I'm sure planning
> > > > had some to do with folks not having enough advance time to plan
> > > > calendars.
> > >
> > > Hey, I think we have a new volunteer to organize installfest from now on!
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > So, David, when's the next one?  Let us know what you want to
> > > do and where you want to have it.   Make sure you budget for
> > > pizza too.  I'm sure TriLUG will appreciate your contribution. :-P
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Tanner
> > >
> > > --
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> > > increscent, all sable.
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