[TriLUG] TriLUG steering committee error in judgement

[matusiak]

hey Jim Ray --

What's with all the bad blood?  Seriously?

I'm not trying to speak on behalf of the Steering Committee or anyone 
other than myself.  With that in mind, I don't understand why you are 
busy flaming this Linux list when you've obviously got bigger fish to 
fry.  500 PC roll-out sounds like good money that could keep you busy 
doing good work.

So why bring these sour grapes onto the list?

Your company logo stayed on the website *longer* than it should have 
based upon an error of the webmaster.  Once that was corrected, you 
asked the SC about it.  It was very clearly and very politely explained 
to you that sponsors are only displayed for a year, yours went longer, 
we're sorry for the confusion.  Then you gave us more negative feedback 
about how "The Rules" are not being uniformly applied.  I think we all 
agreed that it was a mistake and steps would be taken to not let it 
happen in the future.

Then two months later you come forth with this public message about how 
we're not doing our (VOLUNTEER) jobs very well?  AND you don't want to 
do anything to help TriLUG in the future?  So what are you waiting for? 
  The unsubscribe link is at the bottom.  Knock yourself out.

But honestly, I don't think we need anymore "prank humor" about Windows 
PeeCees, "420" & other cool pseudo-drug references, or you telling our 
other members that their contributions are SPAM.  This just puts you in 
the category of "not helpful at all."

And as far as us "stealing your idea" from you, you've got to be 
kidding, right?  This clearly shows just how little you understand the 
Open Source mindset and community.  You don't think we had distro 
round-tables before Jim Ray?  You don't think that any of us are bright 
enough to come up with such an idea?  You don't stop for a second and 
think that the SC has to plan meetings out months ahead of time and 
that this project was already in the cooker for May 2005 before your 
suggestion came along?

I don't want anymore of "your ideas" or "your help" if it is going to 
come with such a negative, derogatory premium.  You are not welcome to 
enter this forum spreading bad blood and ill will.  We don't have time 
for such nonsense.  Thanks for nothing for making me take time out of 
my day to re-explain this to you.

Since you cannot resist the urge to send an off-the-hip belligerent 
response, then hit me up on private email as I'd like to spare the 
membership anymore of your childish bellyaching.

dave m.


On Apr 7, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Jim Ray wrote:

> kudos to you for your help with SC.  i've really enjoyed my 
> involvement with TriLUG and had rather not get involved in the SC.  
> the current SC has the authority to fix problems and, therefore, the 
> responsibility.  having spent a lot of time and $5,500 in dues and 
> subscriptions this past year, i am more interested in trimming the fat 
> to get the filet.  TriLUG isn't going to make the cut right now.
>
> i'm a lot more interested in figuring out who i am going to hire to 
> help roll out the 500 Linux PCs to my most recent client.
>
> Chris Knowles (TriLUG) wrote:
>
>> That's a real shame.  I really enjoyed my 2.5 years with the SC, and 
>> the
>> ability to help shape TriLUG as an organization.  I'm always pained 
>> when
>> I hear people who are unsatisfied with the way things are.  
>> Particularly
>> when they can't be bothered to actually step up, take responsibility 
>> and
>> fix the problems as they see them.
>>

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