[TriLUG] OT: wcpss technology purchases

Matthew West mattwestm at gmail.com
Sun May 7 16:35:55 EDT 2006


This is very interesting because I am pretty sure that most WCPSS
schools use IBM servers with Windows software. Didn't know that they
are starting to use Sun stuff now.

On 5/7/06, Magnus <stinkfart at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/7/06, Jim Wright <wrightjim at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > While, I'm sure that
> > wcpss pumps a lot of data through their data center, 1.7 million for a
> > server upgrade and some database licenses seems a bit large.
>
>
>
> Sunfire E25K is indeed a very extravagant piece of hardware.  I've worked
> with some big database servers, but I don't think we've ever needed anything
> quite that extraordinary.
>
> What are they doing that they need that kind of horsepower?  Without some
> real justification, this just sounds like someone trying to fulfill their
> own technical fantasies.
>
>
> 3.PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL ORACLE LICENSES
>
>
> This could be the point of some major debate, but I think the vast majority
> of database apps do not need the things that Oracle provides above and
> beyond open source RDBMS's like PostgreSQL or Oracle.
>
> The Oracle licenses are only so much $$$ because of the hardware they want
> to run it on.  Sun processors are slow.  Very very slow.  This is more true
> now than ever.  If Oracle were running on Opteron or Power5 architecture, it
> could do the same work with fewer processors.  Fewer processors means lower
> licensing costs.
>
> Frankly I would be very very skeptical of this, and strongly suggest
> bringing in a disinterested but qualified 3rd party to go over the hardware
> specs and try to justify it against the software that will be run against
> it.  And also get competetive bids from IBM & HP for similar hardware
> (different architectures, but Oracle runs everywhere).  If nothing else, it
> would at least bring Sun's pricing down more.
>
> I'm still really struggling with what the hell a school district needs such
> big iron for.
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