[TriLUG] [WAY OT] security goons at TigerDirect in Raleigh: "No, thanks!"
Brian Henning
lugmail at cheetah.dynip.com
Thu May 31 21:08:17 EDT 2007
Wouldn't setting off the alarm then give them "probable cause" to legally
detain you? I don't think anyone bats an eyelash when airport security
personnel pull people aside when the metal detectors go beep. For that
matter, is it simply a case of "in the interest of public safety" that
various mass transit systems can flagrantly violate civil rights on a daily
basis? (I'm sure that's apples to oranges, but still...an area of confusion
I'd like clarified)
~Brian
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org]On
> Behalf Of Phillip Rhodes
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:43 PM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
> Subject: [TriLUG] [WAY OT] security goons at TigerDirect in Raleigh:
> "No,thanks!"
>
>
> Andrew Perrin wrote:
> > I hesitate to get involved here, but I must point out that I find it
> > amusing that libertarians are upset about private businesses'
> decisions as
> > to how to carry out security on their grounds. I have no patience with
> > libertarianism myself, as it seems absurdly simplistic to me.
> Inalienable rights and personal liberty were good enough for the
> Founding Fathers, but they
> strike you as "absurdly simplistic?" Sorry, but I don't get that.
> Especially when the typical
> attitude from people opposed to libertarianism seems to be:
>
> "if we pass enough laws and if everybody would just do everything the
> way I say (after all, I'm smarter than the
> unwashed masses) then everything would be all peaches and cream. And a
> pony for everybody."
>
> But I digress...
> > But if
> > that's your cup of tea, I don't see any way to reconcile it with
> > prohibiting Best Buy, Tiger Direct, etc., from doing security
> however they
> > feel like doing it. I would expect a libertarian's response to
> be "well,
> > don't shop there if you don't like it."
> >
> This particular libertarian does see it that way. I do find it
> offensive when stores treat
> me like a criminal, and I do make it a habit to keep walking if my
> purchase sets off
> the little alarm at the door. I figure if they really think I'm
> stealing something, one of
> them can chase me down and tackle me, then we'll deal with the fallout,
> whatever
> that may be. But fundamentally, I believe that if I grow to despise
> their policies enough,
> I always have the option to take my business elsewhere.
>
>
> TTYL,
>
>
> Phil
>
> --
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/philliprhodes
>
>
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