[TriLUG] OT: solar wireless mesh router

Tue Jun 12 11:10:46 EDT 2007

No, but they have to be competitive with cable companies as most people won't really care about the 100Mb if it's much more than cable. He (my bro) was telling me about the possibilities with IPTV and it's just insane. They are going to have to build up a very powerful infrastructure to handle all of that IP traffic, but it brings a lot of amazing possibilities to mind when you can pretty much offer any variation of bandwidth, compression, and content. 

You need to have FTTC I believe (as the compression doesn't carry long distances) to get the new services which will leave the majority of older neighborhoods out of the loop. 

Kevin

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From: Tim Jowers <timjowers at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT: solar wireless mesh router

Awesome. Any idea what the cost will be?

I remember hearing SCANA was laying fiber to the meter at the end of the
1990's. The joke was they were laying it to read the meter automatically.

Looks like internet-based TV is not so far off after all.

TimJowers

On 6/12/07, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil <OlsonE at aosa.army.mil > wrote:
>
> Over CAT3 ?!?!? WOAH!
>
> Give me some of that!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> Behalf Of Kevin J.
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT: solar wireless mesh router
>
> Very good point about disconnecting last mile from carrier, but who has
> the money/ability to pay for an interface in that last mile connection?
> It's not like DSL where you could install a DSLAM and hook up thousands
> of customers. Fiber will bring a whole new level to the game.
>
> We built a house in a brand new subdivision in SC last year and got the
> latest and greatest in connectivity for data (incl. phone, tv, etc.)
> which consists of a battery backed cable headend in case of power
> outages to provide phone service to cable customers using the cable IP
> phone system and FTTC (Fiber to the curb) from Bellsouth. My brother
> works for BellSouth and mentioned they are rolling out a new service
> starting in FL and moving up the SE coast that provides 100Mb to the
> home over fiber. The amazing thing is that the signal is compressed so
> heavily at the demarc that it can be sent over normal CAT3 phone wiring
> inside the house. He said they will be providing phone, fax, data, tv,
> et. al. through that pipe. How do you compete with that?
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Magnus <magnus at trilug.org>
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list <trilug at trilug.org >
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:09:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT: solar wireless mesh router
>
>
> Tim Jowers wrote:
> >    I'm with you. I have a good rooftop (HOA withstanding) with
> > excellent coverage of about 100 homes. I live off of Lake Pine in
> > Kildaire Farm. Maybe we can find enough people to justify a T1
> > somewhere and roll this out legally. I guess the legal problems are
> > what killed boingo although I never followed them closely. What
> prototocol? 802.11n?
>
> A T1 only provides 1.54Mbps.  The cost for this is going to be hundreds
> of dollars per month.  Once you start splitting it, it's so slow by
> modern standards it can barely be called "broadband" service.
>
> Even a T3 spreads thin very quickly these days.
>
> To really make a go of it will require serious capital and a commitment
> to providing a compelling alternative to the big broadband ISP's.
>
> I believe the model for the future is not to own both the last mile
> network and the internet connection at the same time.  Establish a very
> fast last-mile network, and allow ISP's to offer exit points from it.
> The last mile network should not have exclusive arrangements with ISP's.
>
> In this day and age I think that when new communities are constructed,
> fiber should be going to each house right next to the power, water, and
> sewage lines.
>
> Allowing the ISP to own the last mile is stifling competition.  The two
> services need to be divorced before we will see major leaps forward.
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