[TriLUG] OT: solar wireless mesh router

Tue Jun 12 12:19:29 EDT 2007

Let me know where you live and I'll try to find out. It could be years (or never) depending upon your existing infrastructure and current phone company. 

Here is an interesting paper written by Corning (fiber mfr) on the subject: http://www.corning.com/docs/corporate/discovery_center/innovation_library/2006/NTR102734.pdf
(too much info to summarize effectively.)

Kevin

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<< interested 

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I think the plan is FL, GA, SC...not sure after that but then the guy
who told me works in the SC region so he probably didn't care. I can
find out if you're interested. 

Have you F/LOSSed today?

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Over CAT3 ?!?!? WOAH! 

Give me some of that! 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:48 AM
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Very good point about disconnecting last mile from carrier, but who has
the money/ability to pay for an interface in that last mile connection?
It's not like DSL where you could install a DSLAM and hook up thousands
of customers. Fiber will bring a whole new level to the game. 

We built a house in a brand new subdivision in SC last year and got the
latest and greatest in connectivity for data (incl. phone, tv, etc.)
which consists of a battery backed cable headend in case of power
outages to provide phone service to cable customers using the cable IP
phone system and FTTC (Fiber to the curb) from Bellsouth. My brother
works for BellSouth and mentioned they are rolling out a new service
starting in FL and moving up the SE coast that provides 100Mb to the
home over fiber. The amazing thing is that the signal is compressed so
heavily at the demarc that it can be sent over normal CAT3 phone wiring
inside the house. He said they will be providing phone, fax, data, tv,
et. al. through that pipe. How do you compete with that?

Kevin

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Tim Jowers wrote:
>    I'm with you. I have a good rooftop (HOA withstanding) with 
> excellent coverage of about 100 homes. I live off of Lake Pine in 
> Kildaire Farm. Maybe we can find enough people to justify a T1 
> somewhere and roll this out legally. I guess the legal problems are 
> what killed boingo although I never followed them closely. What
prototocol? 802.11n?

A T1 only provides 1.54Mbps.  The cost for this is going to be hundreds
of dollars per month.  Once you start splitting it, it's so slow by
modern standards it can barely be called "broadband" service.

Even a T3 spreads thin very quickly these days.

To really make a go of it will require serious capital and a commitment
to providing a compelling alternative to the big broadband ISP's.

I believe the model for the future is not to own both the last mile
network and the internet connection at the same time.  Establish a very
fast last-mile network, and allow ISP's to offer exit points from it.
The last mile network should not have exclusive arrangements with ISP's.

In this day and age I think that when new communities are constructed,
fiber should be going to each house right next to the power, water, and
sewage lines.

Allowing the ISP to own the last mile is stifling competition.  The two
services need to be divorced before we will see major leaps forward.
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