[TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME

OlsonE at aosa.army.mil OlsonE at aosa.army.mil
Fri Sep 7 06:08:36 EDT 2007


I don't use Cygwin, so I can't comment on #1. I cannot say I've
experienced #2, and I've been using Vista Ultimate since its release
(and the 64-bit version to boot).

Concerning #3, UAC was put there for a very good reason. Now, if you
don't want your users to have added security, simply turn it off, and
that issue's resolved. Sure it's annoying, but you get the exact same
thing on a Mac, just the dialog box asking for your password does not
take focus.

I have not had an issue with #4 yet, but not all hardware changes
require re-activation.

I also do not use WinZip, I personally feel that it sucks. I use 7-zip
or WinRAR instead. 

-----Original Message-----
From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:42 AM
To: trilug at trilug.org
Subject: [TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME

So I've been doing a little side work and this has put me in contact
with Windows Vista.  My god this is an unpleasant little operating
system.  Not only does it needlessly move everything around like every
other Windows NT release, but it seems mainly to be hell bent on
ANNOYING THE FREAKING HELL OUT OF USERS and making Windows XP look
really good by comparison!  

Top 5 most annoying things that make me want to carpet bomb Redmond, WA
(sorry Tanner, but I've just read "Mao: the unknown story" and so "land
reform" is on the mind):

1. Cygwin is broken: if you write to files especially with vi (other
editors are similarly affected but they aren't relevant), Vista will
exclusively lock them and not release them 2. Vista may lock your files
anyhow for no obvious reason.  If you use eclipse then even after
exiting eclipse, you cannot edit eclipse.ini directly.  (It could be
that you must just reboot first)  copy it to another directory, delete
the original, edit the copy, copy it back...otherwise it will act as if
the file is read only or there is a permission problem or something
(none of the above were true and it wasn't open anywhere else).
3. Are you sure you want to do elementary task?  YES.  Blur the
background (which takes a moment where the screen goes black) "Allow XX
to do elementary task?" (like the mac commercial) YES DAMMIT!
4. You have installed some rudimentary periphery that wasn't a flash
drive, you must reauthorize vista (this doesn't appear to be in the
corporate version apparently as only home users are pirates haha) 5.
Winzip something in Vista that has a lot of stuff and some multi-level
directories...  unzip it on XP "Bla cannot find XYZ file that you just
unzipped".  XP->Vista works.

The cygwin issue and the "are you sure, are you really sure" prompts are
the biggest for me.  They make my Linux driver annoyances with my
temporary laptop that I bought because my MBP is in the shop again look
rather minor.  (I got intel graphics card, atheros wireless, intel sound
-- but the version of the atheros isn't supported even by the HEAD of
the atheros driver [ndiswrapper works] and the graphics card isn't
working with the projector here but it very well could be the projector
and I haven't looked into sound yet).   

So I'm glad when my wife broke her laptop that I immediately wiped vista
and "upgraded" her to XP (her school work is all MS Office and she keeps
the books).  So XP wasn't my preference, I'm a linux junkie, but I
didn't find it especially unpleasant to use (just slow) when using
Cygwin...but Vista...OMG Vista....  MS needs some SERIOUS purging!  

I wish we could do like a Linux ad with side by side Ubuntu and Vista...

-Andy 

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