[TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME

[Andrew C. Oliver]

On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 06:08 -0400, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
> I don't use Cygwin, so I can't comment on #1. I cannot say I've
> experienced #2, and I've been using Vista Ultimate since its release
> (and the 64-bit version to boot).
> 

It seems to be based on different file locking semantics than previous
releases and different things that aren't set up to deal with it puke.

> Concerning #3, UAC was put there for a very good reason. Now, if you
> don't want your users to have added security, simply turn it off, and
> that issue's resolved. Sure it's annoying, but you get the exact same
> thing on a Mac, just the dialog box asking for your password does not
> take focus.
> 

But it asks TWICE.  It has been a little while since I used OSX
regularly, but it never did that to me.  Where do you turn that off?

Also sometimes it tells me I have to have administrator rights...WHEN I
HAVE administrator rights!

> I have not had an issue with #4 yet, but not all hardware changes
> require re-activation.
>
> I also do not use WinZip, I personally feel that it sucks. I use 7-zip
> or WinRAR instead. 
> 

I didn't pick it, it is a "standard install" for some places... 

You're like only the second person I've talked to who wasn't beating
their head against the table...

-andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:42 AM
> To: trilug at trilug.org
> Subject: [TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME
> 
> So I've been doing a little side work and this has put me in contact
> with Windows Vista.  My god this is an unpleasant little operating
> system.  Not only does it needlessly move everything around like every
> other Windows NT release, but it seems mainly to be hell bent on
> ANNOYING THE FREAKING HELL OUT OF USERS and making Windows XP look
> really good by comparison!  
> 
> Top 5 most annoying things that make me want to carpet bomb Redmond, WA
> (sorry Tanner, but I've just read "Mao: the unknown story" and so "land
> reform" is on the mind):
> 
> 1. Cygwin is broken: if you write to files especially with vi (other
> editors are similarly affected but they aren't relevant), Vista will
> exclusively lock them and not release them 2. Vista may lock your files
> anyhow for no obvious reason.  If you use eclipse then even after
> exiting eclipse, you cannot edit eclipse.ini directly.  (It could be
> that you must just reboot first)  copy it to another directory, delete
> the original, edit the copy, copy it back...otherwise it will act as if
> the file is read only or there is a permission problem or something
> (none of the above were true and it wasn't open anywhere else).
> 3. Are you sure you want to do elementary task?  YES.  Blur the
> background (which takes a moment where the screen goes black) "Allow XX
> to do elementary task?" (like the mac commercial) YES DAMMIT!
> 4. You have installed some rudimentary periphery that wasn't a flash
> drive, you must reauthorize vista (this doesn't appear to be in the
> corporate version apparently as only home users are pirates haha) 5.
> Winzip something in Vista that has a lot of stuff and some multi-level
> directories...  unzip it on XP "Bla cannot find XYZ file that you just
> unzipped".  XP->Vista works.
> 
> The cygwin issue and the "are you sure, are you really sure" prompts are
> the biggest for me.  They make my Linux driver annoyances with my
> temporary laptop that I bought because my MBP is in the shop again look
> rather minor.  (I got intel graphics card, atheros wireless, intel sound
> -- but the version of the atheros isn't supported even by the HEAD of
> the atheros driver [ndiswrapper works] and the graphics card isn't
> working with the projector here but it very well could be the projector
> and I haven't looked into sound yet).   
> 
> So I'm glad when my wife broke her laptop that I immediately wiped vista
> and "upgraded" her to XP (her school work is all MS Office and she keeps
> the books).  So XP wasn't my preference, I'm a linux junkie, but I
> didn't find it especially unpleasant to use (just slow) when using
> Cygwin...but Vista...OMG Vista....  MS needs some SERIOUS purging!  
> 
> I wish we could do like a Linux ad with side by side Ubuntu and Vista...
> 
> -Andy 
> 
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