[TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME

Sun Sep 9 00:00:05 EDT 2007

The network administrator has disabled this.  Even through the registry...

OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
> http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:43 AM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME
>
> On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 06:08 -0400, OlsonE at aosa.army.mil wrote:
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>> I don't use Cygwin, so I can't comment on #1. I cannot say I've 
>> experienced #2, and I've been using Vista Ultimate since its release 
>> (and the 64-bit version to boot).
>>
>>     
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> It seems to be based on different file locking semantics than previous
> releases and different things that aren't set up to deal with it puke.
>
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>> Concerning #3, UAC was put there for a very good reason. Now, if you 
>> don't want your users to have added security, simply turn it off, and 
>> that issue's resolved. Sure it's annoying, but you get the exact same 
>> thing on a Mac, just the dialog box asking for your password does not 
>> take focus.
>>
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> But it asks TWICE.  It has been a little while since I used OSX
> regularly, but it never did that to me.  Where do you turn that off?
>
> Also sometimes it tells me I have to have administrator rights...WHEN I
> HAVE administrator rights!
>
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>> I have not had an issue with #4 yet, but not all hardware changes 
>> require re-activation.
>>
>> I also do not use WinZip, I personally feel that it sucks. I use 7-zip
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>> or WinRAR instead.
>>
>>     
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> I didn't pick it, it is a "standard install" for some places... 
>
> You're like only the second person I've talked to who wasn't beating
> their head against the table...
>
> -andy
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:42 AM
>> To: trilug at trilug.org
>> Subject: [TriLUG] Rant: VISTA OMG PLEASE SHOOT ME
>>
>> So I've been doing a little side work and this has put me in contact 
>> with Windows Vista.  My god this is an unpleasant little operating 
>> system.  Not only does it needlessly move everything around like every
>>     
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>> other Windows NT release, but it seems mainly to be hell bent on 
>> ANNOYING THE FREAKING HELL OUT OF USERS and making Windows XP look 
>> really good by comparison!
>>
>> Top 5 most annoying things that make me want to carpet bomb Redmond, 
>> WA (sorry Tanner, but I've just read "Mao: the unknown story" and so 
>> "land reform" is on the mind):
>>
>> 1. Cygwin is broken: if you write to files especially with vi (other 
>> editors are similarly affected but they aren't relevant), Vista will 
>> exclusively lock them and not release them 2. Vista may lock your 
>> files anyhow for no obvious reason.  If you use eclipse then even 
>> after exiting eclipse, you cannot edit eclipse.ini directly.  (It 
>> could be that you must just reboot first)  copy it to another 
>> directory, delete the original, edit the copy, copy it 
>> back...otherwise it will act as if the file is read only or there is a
>>     
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>> permission problem or something (none of the above were true and it
>>     
> wasn't open anywhere else).
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>> 3. Are you sure you want to do elementary task?  YES.  Blur the 
>> background (which takes a moment where the screen goes black) "Allow 
>> XX to do elementary task?" (like the mac commercial) YES DAMMIT!
>> 4. You have installed some rudimentary periphery that wasn't a flash 
>> drive, you must reauthorize vista (this doesn't appear to be in the 
>> corporate version apparently as only home users are pirates haha) 5.
>> Winzip something in Vista that has a lot of stuff and some multi-level
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>> directories...  unzip it on XP "Bla cannot find XYZ file that you just
>>     
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>> unzipped".  XP->Vista works.
>>
>> The cygwin issue and the "are you sure, are you really sure" prompts 
>> are the biggest for me.  They make my Linux driver annoyances with my 
>> temporary laptop that I bought because my MBP is in the shop again 
>> look rather minor.  (I got intel graphics card, atheros wireless, 
>> intel sound
>> -- but the version of the atheros isn't supported even by the HEAD of 
>> the atheros driver [ndiswrapper works] and the graphics card isn't 
>> working with the projector here but it very well could be the
>>     
> projector
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>> and I haven't looked into sound yet).   
>>
>> So I'm glad when my wife broke her laptop that I immediately wiped 
>> vista and "upgraded" her to XP (her school work is all MS Office and 
>> she keeps the books).  So XP wasn't my preference, I'm a linux junkie,
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>> but I didn't find it especially unpleasant to use (just slow) when 
>> using Cygwin...but Vista...OMG Vista....  MS needs some SERIOUS
>>     
> purging!
>   
>> I wish we could do like a Linux ad with side by side Ubuntu and
>>     
> Vista...
>   
>> -Andy
>>
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