[TriLUG] Fwd: Hans Reiser leads cops to wife's body.

[Greg Brown]

Vista makes the tunnel, and does so automatically.  It's also very good
digging through a net to find a way out, even when the network is not wide
open to the world (i.e. firewalls, proxies in place, etc).  M$ is supposed
to make this "feature" selectable in an upcoming service pack.  I'm not sure
if they have done this yet or not.

There are more than a few people around here who think the answer is a Linux
desktop running virtual machines as-needed until applications can be moved
towards Linux compatibility.  I'm doing everything I can to further this
idea.  Sadly it's an uphill battle but Vista's uselessness is flattening
that hill bit by bit.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Jason Watts <jsnonzzr at gmail.com> wrote:

> A compelling reason... granted we aren't there yet, would be that XP will
> eventually be unsupported... and updates will go away with that.  (meaning
> no new security/stability patches)  as much as windows users don't want to
> go to vista... i think that choice will become a requirement... unless they
> get their new OS out before then.
>
> Are you saying that Vista makes its IPv6 tunnel to m$ or XP does?  I
> haven't
> heard that yet, then again I don't hear a lot of things
>
> Jason
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Greg Brown <gwbrown1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think, for us at work and a corporate desktop, there is no compelling
> > reason to upgrade.  XP offered a huge set of improvements over NT and 9x
> > but
> > the "big leap" just isn't there with Vista.  It looks somewhat better
> just
> > sitting there but when you get it in a lab and really work it's guts out
> > there just nothing there beyond what is in XP.
> >
> > And then there's that whole Toredo thing.  Why would any machine make an
> > IPv6 tunnel to a server owned my M$ by default and without my asking is
> > beyond me.  No thanks.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:00 AM, James Tuttle <jjtuttle at trilug.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >  > I've never used Vista and likely never will, but is it really so bad?
> >  I
> > > know people seem to hate UAC and the hardware reqs are pretty bad, but
> > > is it so shitty?  For the record, I truly hope it is.  I just can't
> > > believe I'd be so lucky as to receive my wish for their stunning
> failure.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > Greg Brown wrote:
> > > > From a senior manager where I work:  "Vista has all the flaws
> necessary
> > > to
> > > > supplant Dos 4.0 as the second worst abomination inflicted on the
> world
> > > from
> > > > the geniuses in Redmond.  Microsoft Bob remains theoretically
> > untouchable
> > > at
> > > > number one."
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Matt Bidwell <
> bidwell at dead-city.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Greg Brown wrote:
> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Scott Lambdin <lopaki at gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>> Make him work on Vista?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We have a winner!!!
> > > >> You know they have laws about cruel and unusual punishments?
> > > >>
> > > >> Matt
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