[TriLUG] This is not good

[Shawn Hartsock]

To me, it looks more and more like Java's real new home may already be
Google not Sun or Oracle. Consider Sun's

    * Java Standard Edition (SE) for desktop applications
    * Java Enterprise Edition (EE) for server side
    * Java Mobile Edition (ME) for phones

versus Google's Java offerings

    * GWT is Java Web Edition (WE)
    * Android is Java Device Edition (DE)
    * App Engine is Java Cloud Edition (CE)

( idea stolen from http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=1195 )
so Oracle's best move is to keep the community together as much as it
can but there's already significant fragmentation happening. Google
will probably be the ones to fork Java if it happens at all. Maybe
they'll call it Guava?

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Christopher L Merrill
<chris at webperformance.com> wrote:
> Greg Brown wrote:
>>
>> Didn't we already go round and round on this dance with J++ back in the
>> day?  Or was the problem with J++ was that MS was trying to commercialize
>> a
>> fork of a open source project?  It was a while ago.. details are fuzzy.
>
> Java wasn't open source then. M$ licensed it and then allegedly violated the
> terms of the license.  MS called it Java, but it wasn't quite Java.  I don't
> remember the details beyond that.
>
> The pseudo-java being used in Android (Google, again) might also be
> considered a fork by some. Or the pre-cursor to one.
>
>
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