[TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company

Jim Ray jim at neuse.net
Fri Jan 8 08:18:31 EST 2010 

Yes. Do not pull too hard :-)

Cat6 1/4" tolerances take a little longer than Cat5 1/2" tolerances.

High ceilings and jump discontinuities require more time.

For example, we did a 100,000 sq ft manufacturing plant that was 50 years old and had sections added over years. You may spend 4 hr on 1 drop in such an environment.

However, the stated production rate holds true for jobs we have done in Class A high rise office buildings with drop in ceilings.

-----Original Message-----
From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On Behalf Of James Jones
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 7:25 AM
To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company

Do you have  a rule of thumb for just pulling wire?

jcj

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Jim Ray <jim at neuse.net> wrote:
> Includes termination at both ends, cable hangers and patch panel.
> Estimate would require adding setup time for small jobs and applies
> whether you use vi or emacs.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Ray, President
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> Behalf Of James Jones
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:29 AM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>
> Jim,
>
> Does that estimation include or exclude termination at each end?
>
> jcj
>
> On 1/7/10, Jim Ray <jim at neuse.net> wrote:
>> We do managed services and may pull cables for our clients yet aren't
>>  really looking for that work. I was trying to help you manage your
>>  expectations. The production rate of 1.3 hr per wire holds true in
>>  environments with drop in ceilings that are low enough where a lift
> is
>>  not required. So, 30 drops * 4 wires per drop * 1.3 hr per wire
> yields
>>  156 hours.
>>
>>  So, I'm calling BS on your 3 hour estimate and hate to see anyone get
>>  ripped off or misled.
>>
>>  Now, the first wiring job in this area I did in 1994 moving a
> business
>>  from Zebulon to Knightdale took 3 hours for 5 PCs. For 120 wires? Try
>>  156 hours for size. Pretty basic industrial engineering time study.
>>
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Jim Ray, President
>>  Neuse River Networks tel: 919-838-1672 x111 cell: 919-606-1772
>>
>>  Web: http://www.neuserivernetworks.com Linkedin:
>>  http://www.linkedin.com/in/neuse Facebook:
>>  http://www.facebook.com/neuseriver Twitter: http://twitter.com/neuse
>>
>>  Customer Service/Support: Call hotline at 919-838-1672 x117, send
> email
>>  to support at neuserivernetworks.com or visit
>>  http://www.neuserivernetworks.com/support
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
>>  Behalf Of Ron Kelley
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:52 PM
>>  To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
>>
>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>>
>>
>>  On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Jim Ray wrote:
>>
>>  > 3 hrs for 30 drops? No way unless you are running multiple crews.
> You
>>  > are looking closer to 120 hrs.
>>  >
>>  > I would not touch it.
>>  >
>>
>>  Wow, business must be *really good* these days to turn down business
>>  without even talking to the client.  Perhaps my estimate was off (I
>>  don't do this everyday), but a little understanding would have gone
> much
>>  farther.
>>
>>  At any rate, thanks for letting me know upfront you are not
> interested.
>>  It makes finding the right vendor (for this job and the next) much
>>  easier.
>>
>>
>>  -Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  > Regards,
>>  >
>>  > Jim Ray, President
>>  > Neuse River Networks tel: 919-838-1672 x111 cell: 919-606-1772
>>  >
>>  > Web: http://www.neuserivernetworks.com Linkedin:
>>  > http://www.linkedin.com/in/neuse Facebook:
>>  > http://www.facebook.com/neuseriver Twitter:
> http://twitter.com/neuse
>>  >
>>  > Customer Service/Support: Call hotline at 919-838-1672 x117, send
>>  email
>>  > to support at neuserivernetworks.com or visit
>>  > http://www.neuserivernetworks.com/support
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  > From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org]
> On
>>  > Behalf Of Ron Kelley
>>  > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:15 AM
>>  > To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
>>  > Subject: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>>  >
>>  > Does anyone know of a good and reasonably-priced company that
> installs
>>  > CAT-5 here in RTP?  I have a buddy who is moving his business into
> a
>>  new
>>  > building, and we need to get CAT-5 installed in each office.  The
>>  > building is just a shell right now, so the installation is pretty
>>  easy.
>>  > Preferably, the company should be a certified installer as we have
> to
>>  > pass inspection.
>>  >
>>  > I would do this myself, but we are looking at about 30 drops (4
> cables
>>  > per drop) in the building which would take me much longer than
>>  > necessary.  An experienced set of guys should be able to finish the
>>  job
>>  > in about 3hrs max.  Depending on price, we may also get the
> installers
>>  > to punch down all wires in the closet and make the necessary
>>  wall-plate
>>  > connections.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Thanks for any pointers...
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > -Ron
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