[TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
Jim Ray
jim at neuse.net
Fri Jan 8 09:33:58 EST 2010
I concur.
-----Original Message-----
From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
Behalf Of Dave Hostetler
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:33 AM
To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
If you just wanted the wire "stubbed out" meaning that the ends would be
hanging unterminated from the ceiling and out of the box in the wall, I
would guess you could take about one third of Jim's time. Most of the
time will be spent in terminating the wires and punching down a patch
panel. If you're willing to do the work yourself, you will not save
time, but you may save some money.
Dave
On Jan 8, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Jim Ray wrote:
> Yes. Do not pull too hard :-)
>
> Cat6 1/4" tolerances take a little longer than Cat5 1/2" tolerances.
>
> High ceilings and jump discontinuities require more time.
>
> For example, we did a 100,000 sq ft manufacturing plant that was 50
years old and had sections added over years. You may spend 4 hr on 1
drop in such an environment.
>
> However, the stated production rate holds true for jobs we have done
in Class A high rise office buildings with drop in ceilings.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
Behalf Of James Jones
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 7:25 AM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>
> Do you have a rule of thumb for just pulling wire?
>
> jcj
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Jim Ray <jim at neuse.net> wrote:
>> Includes termination at both ends, cable hangers and patch panel.
>> Estimate would require adding setup time for small jobs and applies
>> whether you use vi or emacs.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jim Ray, President
>> Neuse River Networks tel: 919-838-1672 x111 cell: 919-606-1772
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
>> Behalf Of James Jones
>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:29 AM
>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Does that estimation include or exclude termination at each end?
>>
>> jcj
>>
>> On 1/7/10, Jim Ray <jim at neuse.net> wrote:
>>> We do managed services and may pull cables for our clients yet
aren't
>>> really looking for that work. I was trying to help you manage your
>>> expectations. The production rate of 1.3 hr per wire holds true in
>>> environments with drop in ceilings that are low enough where a lift
>> is
>>> not required. So, 30 drops * 4 wires per drop * 1.3 hr per wire
>> yields
>>> 156 hours.
>>>
>>> So, I'm calling BS on your 3 hour estimate and hate to see anyone
get
>>> ripped off or misled.
>>>
>>> Now, the first wiring job in this area I did in 1994 moving a
>> business
>>> from Zebulon to Knightdale took 3 hours for 5 PCs. For 120 wires?
Try
>>> 156 hours for size. Pretty basic industrial engineering time study.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jim Ray, President
>>> Neuse River Networks tel: 919-838-1672 x111 cell: 919-606-1772
>>>
>>> Web: http://www.neuserivernetworks.com Linkedin:
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>>>
>>> Customer Service/Support: Call hotline at 919-838-1672 x117, send
>> email
>>> to support at neuserivernetworks.com or visit
>>> http://www.neuserivernetworks.com/support
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org]
On
>>> Behalf Of Ron Kelley
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:52 PM
>>> To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Jim Ray wrote:
>>>
>>> > 3 hrs for 30 drops? No way unless you are running multiple crews.
>> You
>>> > are looking closer to 120 hrs.
>>> >
>>> > I would not touch it.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Wow, business must be *really good* these days to turn down
business
>>> without even talking to the client. Perhaps my estimate was off (I
>>> don't do this everyday), but a little understanding would have gone
>> much
>>> farther.
>>>
>>> At any rate, thanks for letting me know upfront you are not
>> interested.
>>> It makes finding the right vendor (for this job and the next) much
>>> easier.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Jim Ray, President
>>> > Neuse River Networks tel: 919-838-1672 x111 cell: 919-606-1772
>>> >
>>> > Web: http://www.neuserivernetworks.com Linkedin:
>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/neuse Facebook:
>>> > http://www.facebook.com/neuseriver Twitter:
>> http://twitter.com/neuse
>>> >
>>> > Customer Service/Support: Call hotline at 919-838-1672 x117, send
>>> email
>>> > to support at neuserivernetworks.com or visit
>>> > http://www.neuserivernetworks.com/support
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org
[mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org]
>> On
>>> > Behalf Of Ron Kelley
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:15 AM
>>> > To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
>>> > Subject: [TriLUG] RTP Local cable-pulling company
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know of a good and reasonably-priced company that
>> installs
>>> > CAT-5 here in RTP? I have a buddy who is moving his business
into
>> a
>>> new
>>> > building, and we need to get CAT-5 installed in each office. The
>>> > building is just a shell right now, so the installation is pretty
>>> easy.
>>> > Preferably, the company should be a certified installer as we
have
>> to
>>> > pass inspection.
>>> >
>>> > I would do this myself, but we are looking at about 30 drops (4
>> cables
>>> > per drop) in the building which would take me much longer than
>>> > necessary. An experienced set of guys should be able to finish
the
>>> job
>>> > in about 3hrs max. Depending on price, we may also get the
>> installers
>>> > to punch down all wires in the closet and make the necessary
>>> wall-plate
>>> > connections.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for any pointers...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -Ron
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