[TriLUG] Palmer for another SC term; proposed amendment to the bylaws

[Matt Flyer]

This goes to my point about rules then requiring officials to enforce them.  This then leads to the need for (rules) spelling out consequences and a system for dealing with infractions.  It is a road I would rather not go down.
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From: James Jones <jc.jones at tuftux.com>
Sender: trilug-bounces at trilug.orgDate: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:27:17 
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Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Palmer for another SC term;
	proposed amendment to the bylaws

If we have to make rules for decent behavior, then perhaps we should all
stay at home.

One rule will just call for another rule and then we would spend all of our
meeting time making rules.

jcj


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Barry Peddycord III <bwpeddyc at ncsu.edu>wrote:

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> > 1 - Not tolerating harassment, and avoiding gender and sexual
> > orientation bias (which seems to be a large component of the
> > policy) , should be an obvious part of *any* discourse in *any*
> > civilized society.  TriLUG does not have, and does not need, an
> > anti-slavery policy, because we do not have a membership which
> > would tolerate enslaving other members.
>
> Given the number of incidents among tech groups and conferences [1]
> and the fact that North Carolina pretty much passed an amendment to
> its constitution that codifies such discrimination, there are any
> number of reasons for a rational person to believe otherwise. The
> current stigma is that technical groups like *UGs don't take
> discrimination seriously and dismiss (or, at worst, retaliate) against
> newcomers who file grievances. This reinforces the exclusion they feel
> when they are subjected to harassment in the first place.
>
> I feel like there are three components to a good anti-harassment
> policy: what we expect from the members of our community and guests in
> our home, the procedures to file grievances, and what someone who
> files a grievance can expect. It's part PR and part procedure, and I'm
> under the impression that the proposed bylaw is a little lacking on
> the procedure side, since the expectations are fuzzy.
>
> Putting this into our bylaws won't end harassment, but it lets
> everyone know whose side we're on when the chips are down.
>
> Most sincerely,
> Barry Peddycord III
>
> [1] http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Incidents
>
> PS: Since harassment is a necessary precondition of slavery, this
> proposed bylaw kills two birds with one stone. :)
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