[TriLUG] Cert Question

Jeremy Davis jeremyhwllc at gmail.com
Thu Sep 12 08:46:00 EDT 2013


if it is a seasoned engineer asking questions during the job interview, you
should prolly have some interesting things waiting be found via your github
url.
On Sep 12, 2013 8:34 AM, "Tim Jowers" <timjowers at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is from the viewpoint of software development.
>
> Depending on your goal, you can also install the latest XYZ and do some
> little project with it. Put it on ghithub since that's what all the kids
> look at for programming nowadays. I interviewed lots of entry-level
> programmers and was surprised how few had actual projects they had done to
> talk about - even school projects. At least in contract programming all
> they are looking for is keywords. 99% of the managers are not well-versed
> in the technologies being used in their company and 50% are not even
> engineers/programmers/scientists; so, if you can talk intelligibly about
> the keywords then you'll get the gig. In fact, for most technologies the
> sample questions comes from the same set of about 10 core questions for
> each technology.
>
> In an ideal world, people would see you have an engineering degree and
> realize you could design the systems, not only use them; but, its not an
> ideal world and tech has been dominated by uneducated posers; so, companies
> have resorted to looking at keywords. Software development projects are so
> inefficient and so poorly managed that "good enough" is more than good
> enough when it comes to the staff. In fact, in SW, most projects are
> seeking a red herring fad technology. On the low end they grad the latest
> fad framework from Google, Yahoo, etc. On the high end the just do whatever
> they saw another MNC doing as the "architects" normally have very little
> knowledge of the practical and best practices.
>
> Best luck,
> Tim
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Peter Neilson <neilson at windstream.net
> >wrote:
>
> > Whatever. I think most certs are worthless, especially if the cert is the
> > only indicator of ability. You should seek instead assessment that
> pertains
> > to the work to be done.
> >
> > For example, make sure you ask any C-programming candidate, "What does
> > this code do? How, if at all, would you change it?" Show something like
> > this:
> >
> > #include <stdio.h>
> >
> > int main()
> > {
> >     char  b1[] = "ABCD";
> >     char  b2[] = "LMNO";
> >     char  b3[] = "ZYXW";
> >
> >     puts(b1);
> >     puts(b2);
> >     puts(b3);
> >     putchar('\n');
> >
> >     puts("Enter some characters:");
> >     gets(b2);
> >
> >     putchar('\n');
> >     puts(b1);
> >     puts(b2);
> >     puts(b3);
> >
> >     return(0);
> >
> > }
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