[TriLUG] Childproofing

Mon Nov 10 10:08:00 EST 2014

Reminds me of the time 15 years ago when a coworker who was a Ph.D. from
China was told to look at the manpages and types that in his browser.
Wasn't work-related to say the least.    8-0{)

Thanks for the info. We are probably moving towards a purchase-mainly model
because things have gone downhill fast with respect to what 2 and 7 years
olds are exposed to on the web and pay TV. Somehow kids key in on those
curse words on YouTube when they come across hardcore rap songs while
trying to find Barbie movies and 4 year old likes the Lego videos but ends
up in live recorded cop videos which are not appropriate for children
either. Its clear whoever used to police TV videos is totally absent from
the Internet video space.

Personally, I think Lego and other companies would be WISE to host their
own TV streams on their website and AGGRESSIVELY stop any use of their
trademarks on YouTube. This would drive their consumers to their websites
and let someone control the quality and content of material related to
their BRAND. As it is YouTube is the Go-To source for Lego videos and DC
ride-on car videos etc. but is like sticking your head into a sleazy bar at
1AM. Not where I want my 4 year old or 7 year old.

Not sure who else tried Ubuntu for buying stuff but I did it in the past
and it seemed fine. Anything but DirectTV where we lose the saved videos
everytime they upgrade us and such.

Cheers,
Tim

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Jeff Patterson <pattersonjeff at gmail.com>
wrote:

> One of the things you'll probably run into (as I already have) is young
> kids spell by sound.  These predatory businesses know this and take
> advantage of it.  Right now, the only thing that I've found to work is not
> allow them to have computers in their rooms (I have 2 kids, both boys).  I
> always know what's on their screens.
>
> One thing I find frustrating is not blocking sites, but content.  Even
> Netflix has shows on their 'kids' section I find offensive (Total Drama
> Island is one example).  It's rated TV-Y7, but is really a disgusting show,
> IMO.  If you come across a solution that allows content blocking, I would
> love to hear it!
>
> Good Luck,
> Jeff
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Ken MacKenzie <ken at mack-z.com> wrote:
>
> > I hear everything you are saying.  I am more worried about the accidents
> > that can bring the hardcore pr0n to your screen.  I remember one time at
> > work in the 90's mistyping msnbc.com as msbc.com and it took me to the
> > site
> > cafe flesh with 20 million popups of even worse.  It was not 2 minutes
> > later the network admin was at my desk as I finished closing it all and I
> > had to revisit the process to show him how easy the error was to make.
> >
> > My wife and I agreed and I tested things l like making sure it would
> block
> > the above but say let through a site about Wendy O for example.
> >
> > I don't want to censor, I want to prevent the predatory practices of
> those
> > businesses on the internet.
> >
> > Also keep in mind all my children are under 10, so the concerns are
> > different now than they will be in a few years.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Joseph Mack NA3T <jmack at austintek.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Ken MacKenzie wrote:
> > >
> > >  So as my kids get older and more online I am starting to deal with
> > content
> > >> filtering.
> > >>
> > >
> > > The filtering that worked best for me was leaving the network open
> (other
> > > than a firewall on the outside to prevent intrusion). It's 100%
> reliable.
> > >
> > > I remember my son, probably about 14, standing behind me, showing me
> how
> > > to find things with tpb or maybe kickasstorrents. The first thing I saw
> > was
> > > images associated with advertisements that I wasn't prepared for. I
> > looked
> > > back at my son, showing my surprise. He explained "all these sites have
> > > them Dad".
> > >
> > > I did log his network usage with rrdtool. The network would have high
> > > throughput all weekend. I assume he was playing video games. At least
> > that
> > > was what was on the screen whenever I was in his room. He'd tell me
> what
> > he
> > > was doing and what level he was on and what he wanted to do there.
> > >
> > > I explained that when I grew up, we didn't have these sorts of things
> and
> > > told him what I'd done with my childhood (build electronics, go on
> hikes
> > > with Scouts). I said that with him being the first generation to have
> > video
> > > games, that we didn't know what would come of it as far as preparing
> him
> > > for adulthood. However I said that it wasn't obvious to me that it was
> > > helpful. I told him that he had to choose what to do and I wasn't going
> > to
> > > restrict his time playing video games as long as he handled his
> > obligations
> > > (homework, chores).
> > >
> > > I talked to my partner about this, concerned that he would never get a
> > > life. She shrugged "he'll grow out of it". He did, but it took till he
> > got
> > > a life elsewhere (he joined the theatre at his school in high school).
> I
> > > spent a lot of time in despair in the meantime.
> > >
> > > My son had girlfriends on and off from early on and in the house we
> > always
> > > talked about them like they were a normal part of life. I think my
> > partner
> > > talked to him more about girls than I did. In early high school he
> talked
> > > to me about his interest in girl's bodies. I said that much of the
> stuff
> > in
> > > the media he'd encounter was designed to mess with his head to sell
> > things
> > > and that if he put too much attention into it that it would stop him
> > being
> > > able to see females as people.
> > >
> > > Later, when he was 16 and got a serious gf, I told him that her body
> was
> > > her body and he could only do things with it on invitation. I told him
> to
> > > think of it as if a friend of his came around with a nice car (say a
> > > Maserati). You don't ask or expect you'll get to drive it. You just say
> > > "nice car". Maybe you'll be invited to drive it, maybe you won't. The
> > > friend is still a friend no matter which option he gives you.
> > >
> > > The problem I knew about was the amount of time he spent on video
> games.
> > > The problem went away eventually. I don't know if we were lucky or my
> > > partner and I can take any credit for it. I don't know how much time he
> > > spent on porn. If he did look at any of it, it doesn't seem to have
> > > affected him.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
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