[TriLUG] at&t fiber

Wed Sep 6 16:26:45 EDT 2017

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Michael Marley via TriLUG
<trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> Because if they didn't impose arbitrary limits, the customer might try
> to run a SERVER!  Oh, the horror!
>
      Or they would otherwise not have an opportunity to sell a
"premium" package.

> On 2017-09-06 15:28, Wes Garrison wrote:
>
>> As Michael Marley said, the passthrough mode on the NVG589 and 599 is not a true bridge mode, and still uses the NAT table on router.
>>
>> The NAT table on these have artificially low limits (2560 sessions, I think), so if you run a lot of services or have multiple devices using multiple services you can easily max out the device.
>>
>> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28967809-NEW-U-verse-Gateway-Motorola-NVG599-WIRELESS-AC-AC1600~start=60
>>
>> Why do these companies insist on imposing artificial limits on services?
>>
>> _________________________________
>> Wesley S. Garrison
>> Network Engineer
>> Xitech Communications, Inc.
>> phone:  (919) 260-0803
>> fax:       (919) 932-5051
>> __________________________________
>> "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from email."
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Mark Sidell via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, a strange beast. FWIW, I haven't had any trouble with it.
>>>
>>> I found these to be the most useful instructions for configuring NVG:
>>>
>>> http://jdalyit.wordpress.com/2014/09/15/att-uverse-internet-with-5-static-ip-and-3rd-party-router/ [1]
>>>
>>> I chose "Manual" pass-through mode so that it would be somewhat easier to
>>> fail over to a second router if my primary router fails.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Michael Marley via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> However, as someone else mentioned, this is not a true
>>>> passthrough/bridge mode and all the traffic is still NATed by AT&T's
>>>> router too, subjecting you to all of its limitations.  This setup likely
>>>> has implications for IPv6 as well, which is already quite limited with
>>>> AT&T (most reports indicate you only get a /64 of 6rd).  Since a /64 is
>>>> not large enough to subdelegate any prefixes, that may prevent the
>>>> second router from giving out IPv6 addresses at all.  That is all
>>>> theoretical, of course, as I don't have the service.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Marley
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-09-06 13:03, Mark Sidell via TriLUG wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You must have the ATT router in the signal path, but you can disable its
>>>>> wifi function and configure it to pass all traffic through to your own
>>>>> router, effectively neutering the ATT router's routing functionality. In
>>>> my
>>>>> setup, I run a linux box that does nat and routing.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Mauricio Tavares <raubvogel at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In this thread I heard people saying you have to user their routers
>>>>> and others mentioning slapping their modem to the AT&T router. What is
>>>>> what?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Mark Sidell via TriLUG
>>>>> <trilug at trilug.org> wrote: Another note on the modems...
>>>>>
>>>>> ATT has two different modems that they'll install with fiber, the NVG599
>>>>> and another one whose name I don't remember. When they first installed
>>>>> fiber at my house, they gave me the other one. I discovered that it
>>>> refused to allow inbound ssh connections, something I need to access my
>>>> servers.
>>>>> ATT was unable to offer any solution except to swap the problem modem
>>>> with the NVG599. FWIW, I also found that configuring pass-through with the
>>>>> NVG599 was less confusing than with the other modem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, on to my afternoon project -- fixing the serious security
>>>>> vulnerabilities in the NVG.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I've been happy with the fiber service. I have a business account
>>>> with 5 fixed IPs, paying only a small premium over a residential account
>>>> for the IPs. The service is actually cheaper than my old copper uverse
>>>> service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
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