[TriLUG] Locked Out Linux box (Denouement)

[Steve Litt via TriLUG]

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:27:52 +0000 (UTC)
John Vaughters via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:

>  I too dislike systemd because it takes total control away, but, IMHO
> the systemd resistance is futile. When ALL the major linux
> distributions sign up for systemd, it's over. 

That's just not true. Many sans-systemd distros remain, and they're
good distros with lots of software. The fact is, anyone who wants to
run sans-systemd can do so without an inordinate amount of trouble.


> In reality, it only
> takes RHEL to sign up and most others will follow, but it didn't
> really go down that way. It was more of an industry plan. 

Someday you and I will sit down over a beer and discuss how this thing
happened.

> In any
> case, all major software vendors will drift away from supporting
> other init systems 

What's a "major software vendor" in the context of free software?

Also, there's no need to "support other init systems." If your daemon
is capable of runnning in the foreground, it can be completely
supervised by runit or s6.

I think what you really meant in your sentence above is:

"In any case, all major software vendors will drift toward putting in
halloween code to prevent their software from running in the absense of
systemd or even a systemd PID1."


> and if they do it will be secondary support and
> less reliable. I truly hate the coupling to systemd, but I am not
> going to waste a bunch of time fighting it.

No need to fight it. Just use one of the many distros without it. I've
used Void Linux, which ships with runit as its init system, for two
years now. It's proven more consistent, stable, and configurable than
all the distros I ran before it: Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva and Mandrake.
 
SteveT

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