[TriLUG] Intel bug in the news today

Fri Jan 5 12:23:23 EST 2018

That's still better than a lot of places in this country get when it
comes to Internet access.

The ISPs, or rather the big telcos and cable providers sure don't seem
to mind rules and regulations when it's in their favor.  Their beef
with municipal broadband for example but they're sure opposed to it
when they're being told that they can't screw people over.

Out at my rural property, it's good enough to have a main high capacity
back haul fiber run right down the main road, but not good enough to
provide any service in the area.   

Last I knew, two things that weren't guaranteed rights in this country
were corporate profits and shareholder value.  But hey, this is
AmeriKa, home of the privatize the profits and socialize the losses.

On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 12:07 -0500, William Sutton via TriLUG wrote:
> Yeah.... my postal delivery lady has a well documented tendency to
> deliver 
> everyone's mail to the wrong house.  When she shows up at all.
> 
> William Sutton
> 
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Charles Fischer via TriLUG wrote:
> 
> > 
> > "STOP expecting all locations have equal service. It will never
> > happen. Not
> > every location has access to mass transportation or airports or
> > water or oh
> > geez, pick a topic."
> > 
> > I pick electricity.  Second pick mail.
> > 
> > -Charles
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:50 AM, John Vaughters via TriLUG <
> > trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Trolling??? Hahahaha!!!!
> > > 
> > > If a discussion on broadband competition started by someone else
> > > and my
> > > comment does not agree with yours = Trolling????
> > > 
> > > We all have, uh.... Belly Buttons, yeah Belly Buttons as well as
> > > opinions
> > > right???
> > > 
> > > I can get 4-5 decent internet options and these days that
> > > includes TV and
> > > phone.
> > > 
> > > Major options:
> > > 
> > > 1. Spectrum
> > > 2. AT&T
> > > 3. Soon Google (2-4 years maybe?)
> > > 
> > > Minor Options:
> > > 1. Verizon Wireless
> > > 2. Sprint Wireless
> > > 3. Satellite Internet
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Just about everyone on this list has at least 3 of these options
> > > and a few
> > > only 2. If you chose to live where you live, eeeeeeh...... about
> > > 99.9% of
> > > you did choose, then why is it anyone's fault but yours what
> > > service you
> > > have? Before Train, Cars, Planes, you pick the technology, not
> > > everyone in
> > > every location had equal access, NOR should they or do they
> > > deserve equal
> > > access to services or advantages of said technologies. HOW ON
> > > EARTH does
> > > anyone believe they should have equal access???
> > > 
> > > Now for most people let me layout a few cases.
> > > 
> > > Case #1:
> > > 
> > > A young college student getting an Accounting degree wants
> > > internet and
> > > video services so he can get all those hot dates that accountants
> > > are
> > > renowned for to his house for some good lovin fun. So being a
> > > bean counter,
> > > he comes to the solution the the best case scenario is Verizon
> > > Wireless
> > > Unlimited plan so he can have internet, TV and phone and pay the
> > > least for
> > > the total services. So he can save his beans to pay for all those
> > > hot dates.
> > > 
> > > Case #2:
> > > 
> > > IT College Student decides he wants to have a decent website with
> > > a good
> > > internet connection to allow for many connections to his web
> > > server to make
> > > some Ad revenue. Since Computer Science folks are smarter than
> > > the average
> > > bear, he comes to the same solution as his accountant neighbor. A
> > > wireless
> > > connection only, but to also buy a virtual server with duplicated
> > > fast
> > > internet connections.
> > > 
> > > Case #3:
> > > 
> > > Rural Area Farmer, Decides he needs access to internet to manage
> > > his
> > > hedging strategy on his cattle. No Wireless, No cable, only
> > > telephone and
> > > Satellite. He opts for Satellite knowing he does not need large
> > > monthly
> > > bandwidth and the overall service is cheaper.
> > > 
> > > Case #4:
> > > 
> > > Professionals that live in Raleigh/Durham and neighboring towns
> > > who have
> > > access to multiple vendors with 100-1000Mb services from 3 High
> > > Speed
> > > vendors (or will very soon) or 3 Wireless vendors and they decide
> > > on which
> > > company they feel provides the best service for the money aka
> > > best value.
> > > 
> > > Case #5:
> > > 
> > > You live on the out skirts of a large town and you did not do
> > > your
> > > homework to find out where the planned high speed connections are
> > > going to
> > > be laid and you you only have 1 High Speed vendor and 1 Wireless
> > > vendor.
> > > Then you cry because its just not fair that you do not have the
> > > same
> > > options and end up paying the 1 vendor because the Gov. that you
> > > may or may
> > > not have voted for regulated policy in your area that only this
> > > one vendor
> > > had exclusive access and the solution is Federal Regulation to
> > > further gum
> > > up the works because the exclusive policies have already gummed
> > > it up and
> > > you are not happy that your municipality has screwed you over so
> > > everyone
> > > else must get screwed over as well.
> > > 
> > > Cry me a river!!!
> > > 
> > > Ok, you got me case #5  was trolling.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, Competition for Bandwidth is screaming right now, and if
> > > you do not
> > > realize it, you just are not paying attention.
> > > 
> > > STOP expecting all locations have equal service. It will never
> > > happen. Not
> > > every location has access to mass transportation or airports or
> > > water or oh
> > > geez, pick a topic.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 4:16:57 PM EST, Thomas Delrue <
> > > delrue.thomas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On January 4, 2018 3:48:13 PM EST, John Vaughters via TriLUG <
> > > trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >   +1 Nothing Burger Why? Because enough competition already
> > > > exists and
> > > is getting more competitive by the year. Let the markets work and
> > > they will
> > > return the best most competitive product. If the issue ever gets
> > > to a
> > > monopoly situation, we already have laws for that problem.As an
> > > example,I
> > > do not care if they throttle, because I do not have to buy their
> > > service,
> > > and they will not retain customers if they create bad
> > > business.Markets
> > > work, keep them free from Gov. intrusion.
> > > 
> > > You're trolling, right?
> > > --
> > > Thomas
> > > (Sent from my mobile device, please forgive brevity or typos.)
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