[TriLUG] Intel bug in the news today

Fri Jan 5 12:39:05 EST 2018

I propose TriLUG meetings should be held at the NC Legislative building
from now on.

On Jan 5, 2018 12:23 PM, "Matt Flyer via TriLUG" <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:

> That's still better than a lot of places in this country get when it
> comes to Internet access.
>
> The ISPs, or rather the big telcos and cable providers sure don't seem
> to mind rules and regulations when it's in their favor.  Their beef
> with municipal broadband for example but they're sure opposed to it
> when they're being told that they can't screw people over.
>
> Out at my rural property, it's good enough to have a main high capacity
> back haul fiber run right down the main road, but not good enough to
> provide any service in the area.
>
> Last I knew, two things that weren't guaranteed rights in this country
> were corporate profits and shareholder value.  But hey, this is
> AmeriKa, home of the privatize the profits and socialize the losses.
>
> On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 12:07 -0500, William Sutton via TriLUG wrote:
> > Yeah.... my postal delivery lady has a well documented tendency to
> > deliver
> > everyone's mail to the wrong house.  When she shows up at all.
> >
> > William Sutton
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Charles Fischer via TriLUG wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "STOP expecting all locations have equal service. It will never
> > > happen. Not
> > > every location has access to mass transportation or airports or
> > > water or oh
> > > geez, pick a topic."
> > >
> > > I pick electricity.  Second pick mail.
> > >
> > > -Charles
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:50 AM, John Vaughters via TriLUG <
> > > trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Trolling??? Hahahaha!!!!
> > > >
> > > > If a discussion on broadband competition started by someone else
> > > > and my
> > > > comment does not agree with yours = Trolling????
> > > >
> > > > We all have, uh.... Belly Buttons, yeah Belly Buttons as well as
> > > > opinions
> > > > right???
> > > >
> > > > I can get 4-5 decent internet options and these days that
> > > > includes TV and
> > > > phone.
> > > >
> > > > Major options:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Spectrum
> > > > 2. AT&T
> > > > 3. Soon Google (2-4 years maybe?)
> > > >
> > > > Minor Options:
> > > > 1. Verizon Wireless
> > > > 2. Sprint Wireless
> > > > 3. Satellite Internet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just about everyone on this list has at least 3 of these options
> > > > and a few
> > > > only 2. If you chose to live where you live, eeeeeeh...... about
> > > > 99.9% of
> > > > you did choose, then why is it anyone's fault but yours what
> > > > service you
> > > > have? Before Train, Cars, Planes, you pick the technology, not
> > > > everyone in
> > > > every location had equal access, NOR should they or do they
> > > > deserve equal
> > > > access to services or advantages of said technologies. HOW ON
> > > > EARTH does
> > > > anyone believe they should have equal access???
> > > >
> > > > Now for most people let me layout a few cases.
> > > >
> > > > Case #1:
> > > >
> > > > A young college student getting an Accounting degree wants
> > > > internet and
> > > > video services so he can get all those hot dates that accountants
> > > > are
> > > > renowned for to his house for some good lovin fun. So being a
> > > > bean counter,
> > > > he comes to the solution the the best case scenario is Verizon
> > > > Wireless
> > > > Unlimited plan so he can have internet, TV and phone and pay the
> > > > least for
> > > > the total services. So he can save his beans to pay for all those
> > > > hot dates.
> > > >
> > > > Case #2:
> > > >
> > > > IT College Student decides he wants to have a decent website with
> > > > a good
> > > > internet connection to allow for many connections to his web
> > > > server to make
> > > > some Ad revenue. Since Computer Science folks are smarter than
> > > > the average
> > > > bear, he comes to the same solution as his accountant neighbor. A
> > > > wireless
> > > > connection only, but to also buy a virtual server with duplicated
> > > > fast
> > > > internet connections.
> > > >
> > > > Case #3:
> > > >
> > > > Rural Area Farmer, Decides he needs access to internet to manage
> > > > his
> > > > hedging strategy on his cattle. No Wireless, No cable, only
> > > > telephone and
> > > > Satellite. He opts for Satellite knowing he does not need large
> > > > monthly
> > > > bandwidth and the overall service is cheaper.
> > > >
> > > > Case #4:
> > > >
> > > > Professionals that live in Raleigh/Durham and neighboring towns
> > > > who have
> > > > access to multiple vendors with 100-1000Mb services from 3 High
> > > > Speed
> > > > vendors (or will very soon) or 3 Wireless vendors and they decide
> > > > on which
> > > > company they feel provides the best service for the money aka
> > > > best value.
> > > >
> > > > Case #5:
> > > >
> > > > You live on the out skirts of a large town and you did not do
> > > > your
> > > > homework to find out where the planned high speed connections are
> > > > going to
> > > > be laid and you you only have 1 High Speed vendor and 1 Wireless
> > > > vendor.
> > > > Then you cry because its just not fair that you do not have the
> > > > same
> > > > options and end up paying the 1 vendor because the Gov. that you
> > > > may or may
> > > > not have voted for regulated policy in your area that only this
> > > > one vendor
> > > > had exclusive access and the solution is Federal Regulation to
> > > > further gum
> > > > up the works because the exclusive policies have already gummed
> > > > it up and
> > > > you are not happy that your municipality has screwed you over so
> > > > everyone
> > > > else must get screwed over as well.
> > > >
> > > > Cry me a river!!!
> > > >
> > > > Ok, you got me case #5  was trolling.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, Competition for Bandwidth is screaming right now, and if
> > > > you do not
> > > > realize it, you just are not paying attention.
> > > >
> > > > STOP expecting all locations have equal service. It will never
> > > > happen. Not
> > > > every location has access to mass transportation or airports or
> > > > water or oh
> > > > geez, pick a topic.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 4:16:57 PM EST, Thomas Delrue <
> > > > delrue.thomas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On January 4, 2018 3:48:13 PM EST, John Vaughters via TriLUG <
> > > > trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >   +1 Nothing Burger Why? Because enough competition already
> > > > > exists and
> > > > is getting more competitive by the year. Let the markets work and
> > > > they will
> > > > return the best most competitive product. If the issue ever gets
> > > > to a
> > > > monopoly situation, we already have laws for that problem.As an
> > > > example,I
> > > > do not care if they throttle, because I do not have to buy their
> > > > service,
> > > > and they will not retain customers if they create bad
> > > > business.Markets
> > > > work, keep them free from Gov. intrusion.
> > > >
> > > > You're trolling, right?
> > > > --
> > > > Thomas
> > > > (Sent from my mobile device, please forgive brevity or typos.)
> > > > --
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