[TriLUG] recommendations for on-line Linux VM

Tue Feb 11 19:13:24 EST 2025

I have to wonder if colocation is really worth it at sizes like these. A
quick web search makes it look like comcast buisness internet isn't
particularly expensive. If you're not moving *a lot* of data I have to
imagine you don't really need the peering. I can't imagine the SLA is
that important for hobbiest/consultant web sites either.

But I always rent this stuff.

--Stephen

On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 07:02:31PM -0500, Scott Blaydes wrote:
> Now I very opinionated about this. Worked in the web hosting industry
> for a bit.
> 
> One big question is, will you be hosting email on the the VPS/VM?
> 
> If yes, it narrows down who you can use. Digital Ocean, OVH, and
> Hetzner don't have healthy IP reputations. 
> 
> Linode works well, but does have some bad IPs too. It is a roll of the
> dice as to how great the IP you will get.
> 
> If you will never run a mail server from it, I still caution you from
> using OVH, Hetzner, and Digital Ocean. Their abuse staff seems to be
> backed up and it makes for a bad network citizen. Linode, Vultr, and
> ARP Networks all make good VPS/VMs for general use.
> 
> Now I have two bare metal servers that I section up into VPSes, using
> Proxmox. Those two are through Wholesale Internet/Nocix. Been happy
> with them, but it is a bit different than what you are asking for.
> 
> Only been here since July, but was looking into renting half a rack
> putting a few servers in it. I haven't shopped a lot, but looking at
> $600-800 from TierPoint. Anyone interested in going in on half a rack?
> 
> I could go on more, but I am tired of typing.
> 
> Feel free to email me if you want to discuss off list...or argue on
> list, I don't care.
> 
> Thank you,
> Scott Blaydes
> 
> On Tue, 2025-02-11 at 18:07 -0500, Jos Purvis via TriLUG wrote:
> > Seconding the suggestion for Hetzner: I'm using their small cloud
> > instances to host various websites and tools and they've been
> > terrific. Very set-it-and-forget-it when it comes to setup, and a
> > decent array of choices for OS as well.
> > 
> > If you want something more than that, they also sell their older
> > cloud-hosting servers as colo boxes, so you can get a relatively
> > powerful server already in their datacenter for a fraction of cost
> > with full console/root access to install whatever.
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, at 16:22, Reid Thompson via TriLUG wrote:
> > > https://www.hetzner.com/webhosting/
> > > 
> > > Cheapest $2 month postgresql or mysql. Etc
> > > https://www.hetzner.com/webhosting/level-1/
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 15:34 Stephen Wiley via TriLUG
> > > <trilug at trilug.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I have a Linode VM and used Digital ocean in college. They
> > > > definitely
> > > > sell VMs (that's what "droplets" are on Ditigal ocean, it's just
> > > > a KVM
> > > > instance. IIRC you upload your public ssh key via the web GUI
> > > > when you
> > > > create the machine.)
> > > > 
> > > > They're both great providers. I'm using Linode currently.
> > > > 
> > > > You're right though, their website is surprisingly poorly
> > > > designed. I
> > > > haven't visited it in years and remember shopping being much more
> > > > straightforward. The "shared CPU compute" is what you're looking
> > > > for.
> > > > Here's the URL with that:
> > > > https://www.linode.com/pricing/#row--compute
> > > > The anchor may be wrong so double check the heading you're
> > > > looking at.
> > > > 
> > > > Both should be about the same price. The $5/month one on either
> > > > will be
> > > > plenty for what you want to do and at that price point you're
> > > > approaching the cost of a non-.com domain name.
> > > > 
> > > > --Stephen
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 08:05:57PM +0000, Joseph Mack NA3T via
> > > > TriLUG
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I want a Linux machine on-line, that I can logon at the command
> > > > > line,
> > > > like I
> > > > > do with my home machines, and pilot. I want it to run a lightly
> > > > > used a
> > > > > website. I also want to be able to install and remove files at
> > > > > will had
> > > > not
> > > > > have any blocked ports.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I tried linode.com and digitalocean.com. Their webpages are all
> > > > marketting
> > > > > full of "products" and "solutions". They aren't offering VMs.
> > > > > Maybe they
> > > > are
> > > > > but they're buried beneath marketting (digitalocean is offering
> > > > droplets),
> > > > > in which case I'm not their target.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks Joe
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > > Joseph Mack NA3T EME(B,D), FM05lw North Carolina
> > > > > Don't upgrade a working machine - it won't work any
> > > > > better - it could work worse; it may not work at all.
> > > > > Homepage http://www.austintek.com/ It's GNU/Linux!
> > > > > 
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