[TriLUG] [Fwd: Important Cox E-Mail Delivery Changes]

[james.yu at katakiri.com]

TWC-NC routinely tries to send email through my SMTP server.  Since I'm not
an open-relay, it bounces around a bit and then spits out an error message.

Testing for open relays.  Wow, what a  novel concept: much preferable than
just blocking all outgoing SMTP.

-James

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Williams" <spwilliamsjr at hotmail.com>
To: <trilug at trilug.org>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] [Fwd: Important Cox E-Mail Delivery Changes]


> A small tidbit that may help:
>
> AOL 8.0 introduced the "report spam" button right inside the email viewing
> window- they are now getting over 9 million complaints per day for spam.
> Upon inspection of the reports, it was determined that RR IP space was the
> #1 source of the spam complaints (other cable ISP's were right up there
> too).  That is when they decided to only accept email from RR managed SMTP
> servers - as many on the list have recently discovered.  This has resulted
> in a 99% reduction in the number of complaints about spam originating from
> RR IP space.  AOL claims to block 2.3 million messages per day.
>
> At this point RR does not have any known (to me, anyways) intentions to
put
> this type of outbound SMTP block as Cox is implementing.  Whether or not
> that will change in the future remains to be seen.
>
> I happen to agree with you - legitimate, RFC-abiding customers lose out -
> but you were never promised or guaranteed the ability to run a MTA on the
> residential RR service  (please note I say residential - commercial is a
> different ballgame).  Read the user agreement, there's a lot of "we
reserve
> the right to" statements in there.
>
> As a side-note, RR does have very good load-balanced SMTP outbound
servers,
> and have excellent service availability on them.
>
> And another poster is correct - there are actually at least 2 TWC/RR
> employees on this list (1 is even in management - you know, the people
that
> tie the engineers' hands behind their back)
>
> -Steve
>
> PS I forgot my winmail.dat attachment, is this OT?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Turner" <markt at siteseers.net>
> To: <trilug at trilug.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] [Fwd: Important Cox E-Mail Delivery Changes]
>
>
> > Jon Carnes wrote:
> >
> > > I've heard that these initiatives have really impacted spam
> >
> > There are far too many open relays in the world for these efforts to
> > even make a dent in spam. Legitimate, RFC-abiding customers lose out.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
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