[TriLUG] OT: IP subnetting question

[Jonathan Woodbury]

Peer to peer traffic would concern me first.  It won't be long before some
places in the world won't have IPv4 addresses to hand out.  APNIC only has
about 75,000 IPv4 addresses left.  While peer to peer traffic is probably a
small percentage of the traffic that the typical user enjoys, it will be
painful to make it work, if not often impossible, between two peers not on
the same protocol.

I suspect that some real time audio/video chat services that might tend to
send all traffic through a central "provider" might prefer to make this
traffic peer to peer.  It's cheaper for them and would make for a better
user experience.

I'll admit that people without IPv6 aren't going to need it for the majority
of the things they do in the near future.  But when there's that one thing
you can't do or is just a little more difficult than it should be because
you don't have IPv6, it'll be just a little painful.  And it'll only get
worse.

And besides, IPv6 isn't just a bigger Internet, it's a better Internet.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Brian Henning <bhenning at pineinst.com>wrote:

> I'm all for future planning, but seriously, when will it become painful?
>
> I have my public IPv4 address(es) and all my service providers have theirs.
> Do you really expect any major service providers to stop providing their
> services over IPv4 networks any time soon?
>
> The way I see it, it's not going to become "painful" until IPv6 becomes
> prevalent enough for service providers to turn off their IPv4 services.
> Just because IPv4 runs out of address space doesn't mean all the existing
> IPv4 networks will stop working.
>
> When IPv4 /stops working/, then we'll have a problem.  I honestly can't
> imagine that moment coming in, say, the next three years.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trilug-bounces at trilug.org [mailto:trilug-bounces at trilug.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Kevin Otte
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:10 AM
> To: Triangle Linux Users Group General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [TriLUG] OT: IP subnetting question
>
> Furthermore, negotiating contracts now that will last for years into the
> future is the perfect time to be bringing that up. If you don't do it
> now, things are going to be painful down the road.
>
> On 08/10/2011 12:40 AM, Jeremy Portzer wrote:
> > On 8/10/2011 6:38 AM, Brian Henning wrote:
> >> Probably none, but it's not much of a concern for us. I don't think
> >> our VPN
> >> equipment even supports IPv6 anyway.
> >>
> > Don't you think that was kind of his point. That IPv6 is still not part
> > of the equation or discussion...pretty sad.
> > My company's software is nowhere near IPv6 compliant, and when I ask the
> > powers that be when they're planning on implementing it, they act like
> > they've never heard of IPv6. Even despite World IPv6 Day and everything
> > else that people have done to get the word out...it's sad.
> >
> > --Jeremy
>
> --
> This message was sent to: Brian <bhenning at pineinst.com>
> To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that
> address.
> TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug
> Unsubscribe or edit options on the web  :
> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/bhenning%40pineinst.com
> TriLUG FAQ          :
> http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions
>
>
> --
> This message was sent to: Jonathan Woodbury <jonathan at mybox.org>
> To unsubscribe, send a blank message to trilug-leave at trilug.org from that
> address.
> TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug
> Unsubscribe or edit options on the web  :
> http://www.trilug.org/mailman/options/trilug/jonathan%40mybox.org
> TriLUG FAQ          :
> http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions
>