[TriLUG] iptables & FUD

[Aaron Joyner]

If you aspire to a career in system administration, or simply want to work
with embedded systems, it is as important to know how to do things with
'netstat' and 'route' as it is to know which sexy features of 'vim' aren't
supported in vanilla 'vi'.  When you deal with commercial unixes (unices?
eg. Solaris, HPUX or AIX), you're likely to be dealing with the "classic"
tools such as netstat, you certainly won't have the new-hotness of iproute2
(iprule is *right* *out*).  On an embedded linux distros (Montavista,
anything with a busybox core, probably even the Rasberry Pi?), the first
thing to go when space is at a premium are duplicate tools.  I have yet to
find a developer that's favored dropped the classic tools over the
new-shiny tools, although I suppose some day that's coming.  Even when we
cross that Rubicon, they're still likely to include a package equivalent to
Debian's vim-tiny rather than full-blown vim.  Typically, you can forget
emacs (and as a general rule, you should).

Aaron S. Joyner
(starts vi/emacs flame war on mailing list, goes to lunch)


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:51 AM, John Vaughters <jvaughters04 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Also agreed, I get frustrated with some of the newer tools that greatly
> increase your typing. To the point that I start to wonder if I am on the
> path of Grandpahood, where we curse all new and stick to all old schooling
> those whipersnapers at every chance, only to one day to die a good John
> Henry death by the true new technologies that you never saw coming.
>
> The Cycle of Life!
>
>
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> From: David Both <dboth at millennium-technology.com>
> To: trilug at trilug.org
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:43 AM
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>
> I find that many of the very oldest solutions are still the most elegant.
> They
> always have the advantage of simplicity, being written to work well with
> limited
> resources of all types, conforming (for the most part) to the Unix/Linux
> philosophy, and having been thoroughly debugged over many years.
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