[TriLUG] Vbox guest OS choices

Thu Jul 10 12:58:44 EDT 2014

I am 100% with you on that.  Well most of it.  First of all it comes down
to needs of a household that as much as I try I can't get completely over
to FOSS solutions.  But I am close.

However there are a couple of complications to it.  The  itunes for ipad
sync is not as much about music but certain software for music production
that I have been using.  Most of those can't fully replicate out the work
files without itunes sync.  However as I moved to a chromebook with a
chroot debian install I pretty much don't use the ipad for that anymore.
 Seriously its main purpose in the house is Clash of Clans.  Hey I am
addicted.  Part of me though gets hesitant to finally sell it in favor of a
nexus 7 because I have spent a good dime or two on pro level audio software
for it.  But it is what it is.  I don't use it but IOS audio is far ahead
of Android and I like keeping the option open to have these packages.

So in short I am also fighting my own hesitation to call that app store
money spent as money lost.

Ken

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jeremy Davis <jeremyhwllc at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I ran into all the same problems as I transitioned from a windows power
> user to an anti-windows user. Eventually I realized that running windows in
> a Vbox triggers almost as much anxiety as windows on a metal box, because
> you still have a lot of nonsense going on just keeping a windows os alive.
> So I deleted the windows vboxes and noticed life is better with a zero
> tolerance windows policy.
>
> Next, for the printer, and this may sound crazy, I quit printing stuff.
> Hellosign and Hellofax makes it easy to sign and fax from gmail.  If I
> seriously need printing done, I load it up to Staples.com and go pick it
> up. Keep the receipt and the mileage can be written off on taxes as vehicle
> depreciation, which equates to roughly .50 cents per mile and normally
> exceeds the cost of the print job. Bottom line, printer anxiety is non
> existant.
>
> As for the itunes anxiety, I would dump it all into Google Play. Then you
> would have seemless use across all browser enabled devices including Linux.
>
> So that is how I do it. Zero tolerance for windows, apple, and printers.
>
> Obviously the drawback is Google dependancy where OSS solutions are not
> available.
>
> Jeremy Davis
> @jeremydavis0_0
> www.trianglecareerdevelopment.com
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> On Jul 10, 2014 10:46 AM, "Ken MacKenzie" <ken at mack-z.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, this is hypothetical.  So sounds like it does not cooperate well as
> a
> > guest.  I really need to take more steps to completely ditch all non FOSS
> > compatible hardware in my household.  It has just been a slow fight...
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Brian <lugmail at cheetah.dynip.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I've tried this too, as I wanted to get into iOS development without
> the
> > > major capital investment for a Mac.  I've tried VirtualBox and
> bare-metal
> > > installations, both on a ThinkPad T60p.  I can vouch for Ken's report
> > that
> > > performance within a VM is abysmal to the point of being nearly
> unusable.
> > >  Bare metal, the performance is quite decent, but I was never able to
> get
> > > the App Store to authenticate.
> > >
> > > ~B
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/10/2014 10:18 AM, Ken Mink wrote:
> > >
> > >> I used VBox is install OSX as a guest, mostly just to see if it was
> > >> possible. It is. However, the performance was crappy. There were
> > >> problems with the mouse. The pointer jumped around the screen. One
> > >> reason I wanted to try it was to use Messages.app for iMessage access.
> > >> Turns out that Messages.app uses your hardware serial number as part
> of
> > >> it's registration and the OSX guest doesn't have a valid serial
> number.
> > >> The Messages.app running on the OSX guest would not connect for
> > >> iMessage. Anyway, it is possible to create a OSX guest, but usability
> > >> sucked for me. Oh yeah, this was done on a MacBookPro8,1 running
> Ubuntu
> > >> 12.04 as the host.
> > >>
> > >> Ken
> > >>
> > >> On 07/10/2014 09:46 AM, Ken MacKenzie wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> So I have been trying to kill out the use of hardware windows
> installs
> > in
> > >>> the house.  It has been an issue mainly because of a printer/scanner
> > >>> combo
> > >>> (lexmark X75) that will just not cooperate with linux.  Yes I know I
> > need
> > >>> to get a new printer, but hey it works and ink cost is still
> reasonably
> > >>> low.
> > >>>
> > >>> So anyway to mitigate this I have been using a Windows 7 install
> inside
> > >>> virtual box.  I am using the oracle repos for it, linux version is
> > Debian
> > >>> Wheezy.  Windows 7 version is ultimate incidentally.  The other
> reason
> > I
> > >>> went this route is itunes for my ipad to sync if needed.  I am
> phasing
> > >>> out
> > >>> ipad use at some point most likely so this may become moot.
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyway, and I hope I am not violating any rules since this discussion
> > >>> starts to enter the violating EULA for the OS in question...  What
> > about
> > >>> virtualizing OS X.  I mean I know it can be done but I am wondering
> if
> > >>> anyone has experience for the performance of OS X vs Windows 7
> > >>> virtualized
> > >>> through Virtual Box.  I know OS X is only to be installed on Mac
> > >>> hardware.
> > >>>   Just wondering if anyone has tried this out and what their results
> > >>> were.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ken
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
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