[TriLUG] Move over Google: Wilson, NC did it a long, long time ago

[Don Jerman via TriLUG]

The state law is Chapter 160A-340.1.  It's about making sure cities (in
particular) cannot provide network services to non-city recipients using
any labor, equipment or other capital or funds not used solely for
providing communication services.  Which among other things prevents them
from running along city right-of-way unless the value of that right-of-way
is carved out and paid for, and prevents them from starting up the service
using general funds.

Also the city must pay all taxes and other revenues to the city, county and
state that would be paid by a commercial carrier and must "impute (i) the
cost of the capital component that is equivalent to the cost of capital
available to private communications service providers in the same locality
and (ii) an amount equal to all taxes, including property taxes, licenses,
fees, and other assessments that would apply to a private communications
service provider, including federal, State, and local taxes; rights-of-way,
franchise, consent, or administrative fees; and pole attachment fees"

Oh and just to make it easy for Wilson, the law assures that the city may
discontinue service without any approval from the citizens.

The upshot is, if your town can do networking for less than Verizon or Time
Warner, you're not allowed to compete, even if you can do it better.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Tim Jowers via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org>
wrote:

> That is, I have felt for a few years now there is probably a market for at
> least one alternative, "clean" network.  Clean in content, in how its
> managed, in price gouging (SSL certs), etc. Not sure how it would be ramped
> up; but, suspect there is a real market there.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Tim Jowers <timjowers at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just curious if anyone knows. Does state law apply to only "The Internet"
> > or to any network of compute devices?
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Jeff Patterson via TriLUG <
> > trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> >
> >> We are so screwed
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:58 PM, bak via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > If you would like to experience head-tilting puzzlement, and then
> >> perhaps
> >> > anger, here’s Fox News’ take on it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/26/fcc-approves-sweeping-internet-regulation-plan-obama-accused-meddling/
> >> >
> >> > I especially liked this from Ajit Pai:
> >> >
> >> > > Further, he pointed to slower Internet speeds in Europe, which
> largely
> >> > treats the Internet as a public utility, in warning that the
> additional
> >> > regulation will lead to less investment and slower speeds in the U.S.
> as
> >> > well. "The Internet is not broken. There is no problem for the
> >> government
> >> > to solve," Pai said.
> >> >
> >> > —bak
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On Feb 26, 2015, at 14:48, Ric Moore via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > On 02/26/2015 02:24 PM, Pete Soper via TriLUG wrote:
> >> > >> Wilson's gigabit
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2015/01/17/377757372/as-cities-push-for-their-own-broadband-cable-firms-say-not-so-fast
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> >> > > "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> >> > > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> >> > > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> >> > > http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
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