[TriLUG] Best IDE and version control for C and C++?

Mon Jun 5 11:10:59 EDT 2017

I too use VI (Vim) for most of my editing and it supports, at least
most of, the features you mention wanting below.  I began my
programming career back in the day before the IDE existed so I am right
at home with the simplified interface.

I have never been a fan of Eclipse.  My biggest issue with it is
switching between the modes for writing software and then debugging /
running it.  I have tried on several occasions and just never "liked"
it.  

More recently, I've been getting into Python program and trying to
learn how to use Django, which is an exercise in and of it self.  While
doing so, I started using Atom which others have recommended.  I would
like to put in my +1 for it.  One of the biggest strengths I am finding
with Atom as an IDE is the coordination and integration of multiple
files and having functions defined in other locations and it seems to
"just work" in terms of developing across a multi-file project.

On Fri, 2017-06-02 at 22:28 -0400, Charles Fischer via TriLUG wrote:
> I am coming from visual studio 2015 (version 14).  In the past I just
> used
> vi and the command line build chain.  I am hoping for better now.
> 
> I would like it to be C/C++ aware, in other words do the indents and
> bracket alignments (custom, I like brackets on individual lines and
> case
> statements to have the case and breaks aligned one tab in from the
> brackets).  Colors for key words is nice, but not necessary.  I find
> myself
> fighting auto-complete as often as I find it helpful.  Does not have
> to tie
> to unit testing.  I really want it tied to the build tools and
> debugger.
> Tied to the coverage tool would be nice (insure++ from Parasoft is my
> leading candidate for coverage and memory testing, but that is not
> set in
> stone).  I doubt that other developers will work on the code for the
> next
> year or three.
> 
> Thanks,
> Charles Fischer
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:06 PM, Thomas Delrue via TriLUG <trilug at tri
> lug.org
> > 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 06/02/2017 09:21 PM, Ken M via TriLUG wrote:
> > > 
> > > My default answer for all programming languages is emacs. After
> > > that
> > > there is always code::blocks
> > Pfff... y'all are a bunch of amateurs: https://xkcd.com/378 (*)
> > 
> > But seriously now though:
> > - What do you need from your IDE?
> > - Do you want it to be specific to C++ or do you want to be able to
> > use
> > it as well for (future) components that are written in other
> > languages?
> > - Do you just want color-coding?
> > - Do you want auto-complete and how intelligent do you want that to
> > be?
> > - What about refactoring or built-in integration with unit testing?
> > - Do you want it to tie in with your build system and/or your code
> > coverage solution?
> > - Do you want to be able to commit from within the IDE or are
> > external
> > tools fine?
> > - You're the only dev right now, but will there be more in the
> > future?
> > - etc...
> > There's a bunch of questions that will guide you towards the
> > solution
> > that is right for you...
> > 
> > From personal experience: I'll go right ahead and recommend Eclipse
> > CDT
> > for C++ work.
> > I've been working in Eclipse for C++ development for a couple of
> > years
> > now (set up with a couple of extensions to maximize my
> > productivity). It
> > is/can be a bloated piece of work, but then again, unused RAM is
> > wasted
> > RAM, amirite?
> > 
> > For source code control, I use Mercurial
> > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercurial) on command line as well
> > as
> > through TortoiseHg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TortoiseHg). I
> > like to
> > think of it as the user-friendly version of Git that gets out of my
> > face
> > when I'm doing stuff.
> > I'm sure there is an Eclipse extension for it; I also do know that
> > there
> > is a git extension (called EGit) for Eclipse.
> > The downside of picking Mercurial is that you'll need to jump
> > through a
> > couple of hoops if you want to abuse and negate your nice
> > distributed
> > source code control system into a centralized one by using GitHub
> > (sorry, I got distracted for a moment there, where was I...?)
> > Basically, anything that is a distributed source code control
> > system
> > will work pretty well: git, mercurial, bazaar, ... take your pick,
> > but
> > pick mercurial, seriously though... pick mercurial, you'll thank me
> > later!
> > 
> > If all else fails, you can abandon Linux and install this operating
> > system called Emacs. I hear it comes with a relatively ok editor...
> > ;)
> > 
> > For those recommending VSCode or Atom, it's been a while since I've
> > looked at them but do they have refactoring or auto-complete yet
> > for C++
> > or are they still mostly/only for building websites/doing
> > javascript?
> > What about proper build integration? Can I create a (C++) project
> > and
> > set specific build options yet? If so, which extensions would I
> > need.
> > I'm not trying to be facetious, just genuinely curious.
> > 
> > (*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_wars
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Jun 2, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Mike Perry via TriLUG
> > > > <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > NetBeans and Eclipse are decent choices. At work I've been
> > > > using
> > > > Atom lately. I tend to bounce around a bit just to see
> > > > different
> > > > things.
> > > > 
> > > > Even though it's not open source, I'm a big fan of Visual
> > > > Studio
> > > > Code to be honest. It's free and pretty powerful.
> > > > https://code.visualstudio.com/ It's also available on most
> > > > flavors
> > > > of Linux.
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Charles Fischer via TriLUG <
> > > > trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have been away from Linux software development for too
> > > > > long.
> > > > > Much too long.  So what is considered the best open source
> > > > > IDE
> > > > > and version control system (integrated?) for C and C++
> > > > > development?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Information about the environment and the software being
> > > > > developed:  1) I am the only developer.  2) The software will
> > > > > be
> > > > > GPL licensed, not sure which version at this time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Related question, what open source archival software do
> > > > > people
> > > > > like?
> > 
> > 
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