[TriLUG] Internet Neutrality

[Peter Neilson via TriLUG]

The corporate annual reports of the Bell System from around 1907 contain a  
wealth of technical analysis supporting the creation of a regulated phone  
monopoly. Worth reading. The biggest problem seemed to be the difficulty  
of interconnecting competing systems. My grandfather lived in a community  
served by two separate phone companies. Most businesses found they needed  
two separate phones.

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:42:27 -0400, Bill Trautman via TriLUG  
<trilug at trilug.org> wrote:

> To pile on....  Many of these providers that 'we' have got their position
> in the market by being allowed to create a regulated monopoly.   Having
> them now say we don't want regulation is the height of hypocrisy.  There
> are many services that would not exist if the existing monopoly based
> providers had their way.  Their concern is using that monopoly position  
> to
> extract as much cash from you and me as they can.
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Brian via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 09/08/2017 07:37 PM, Tadd Torborg wrote:
>>
>>> I’m grateful that we have it here in the big city.
>>>
>>
>> Respectfully, this sounds a bit like the "I've got mine" mentality.  /I/
>> don't live in a big city, and fortunately DOCSIS (internet over CATV) is
>> available.  My parents live in an area where DOCSIS is not, and likely
>> never will be, available, but DSL is feasible.  If it weren't for  
>> federal
>> regulation, people that live in yet-more-rural areas would still be  
>> lacking
>> in electricity and telephone service because it isn't profitable to  
>> serve
>> them.
>>
>> Aside: I've heard satellite internet mentioned a number of times as a
>> competitive technology to terrestrial services.  With round-trip times  
>> that
>> physically can never be shorter than ~250 ms, it really isn't.  If you
>> can't do VoIP over a particular mechanism, it's not a competitor.
>>
>> > Personally I’m not so worried about [...]
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether it's concern for popular video streaming or
>> access to back issues of 2600 magazine.  The point of net neutrality is  
>> to
>> ensure that ISPs can't hinder, or boost, access to /anything/ for  
>> /anyone/
>> for /any reason/.
>>
>> I’d prefer to look for competition and technology to fix this than to
>>> grant power over our data to some agency that we don’t appear to have a
>>> say in regulating.
>>>
>>
>> Competition and technology would be the ideal way to fix this, but
>> existing regulations and monopolies have choked off both.  "Hey, you  
>> have
>> this great idea for a land-based way of delivering terabit internet  
>> service
>> to folks over fish tank air hose?  That's awesome!  Oh, you want to put
>> your air hoses on our telephone poles?  Now wait just a minute there,
>> bub..."  This is precisely the thing that has interfered with the
>> deployment of competing services such as Google Fiber and municipal
>> broadband.
>>
>> -B
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