[TriLUG] bulk email - gmail

Wed Mar 28 01:45:10 EDT 2018

well in my case we were trying to send association material to members. I
helped them transition from a proprietary platform to WordPress. We
uploaded the existing list of members into mailchimp however the list was
shut down until all the flagged emails were scrubbed from the list. So
mailchimp was preventing spam I guess but it was brutal work trying to get
the list working, which people had subscribed to on the other platform.
People were not getting event notifications etc... it was stressful from
the event organizer standpoint..

I dont endorse mailchimp but in this case they were sort of preventing us
from spamming (seemingly noble)... however yes it is the prying of our
members info in return for free service that their greater evil lurks. So
yup.. We know the stuff is evil but often agree to it all because better
options are not apparent at that point in time.

TriLUG does a great job keeping up with Mailman.. and the server etc..
kudos to Alan Porter the Steering Committee and whoever has helped out.

 Jeremy Davis

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 11:45 PM ac via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:

>
> imnsho, mailchimp method of operation is EVIL.
>
> people should opt in (want to receive) and "services" enabling spammers
> are evil.
>
> instead of actually forcing their "users" to confirm that they have
> spelled an email address correctly, that the recipient actually wants
> their crap etc - mailchimp is empowering the selling of "marketing
> data" and allowing, empowering and promoting the sending of mass spam.
>
> if it was a few hundred years ago the ceo of mailchimp would have been
> at risk of a burning at the stake...
>
> anyway, all ethical mail server admins should flag anything incoming
> from mailchimp as SPAM, as the chances that it may actually be spam, is
> larger than 50%
>
> just my 2c
>
> Andre
>
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:57:56 +0000
> Jeremy Davis via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org> wrote:
>
> > well.. I forgot my point.. since bulk email services like mailchimp
> > have the ability to see which email addresses will label your email
> > as spam.. whatever resource they use for that might be helpful if you
> > can figure out how they do it.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:49 AM Jeremy Davis <jeremyhwllc at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The CANSPAM laws prohibit unwanted email with a fine of about
> > > $16000 per violation (per unwanted email). Not sure how often it is
> > > enforced.
> > >
> > > So the opt-in/opt-out process is furly important. Single click
> > > opt-out is a nice feature to keep you organisation out of the court
> > > room.
> > >
> > > Also, something to consider, mail services like mailchimp have the
> > > ability to see which email addresses will mark your email as spam
> > > before it sends the bulk email. If mailchimp detects a high
> > > percentage of the recipients consider your email spam.. mailchimp
> > > will not send the email and penalize your account. They do this to
> > > prevent the mailchimp servers from being flagged.
> > >
> > > Jeremy Davis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 8:39 AM mver via TriLUG <trilug at trilug.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >> I understand that bulk email can get labelled as spam, creating
> > >> further problems for the sender.
> > >>
> > >> What I want to do is not a random, cold solicitation. The
> > >> addresses have a logical relationship to the sender.
> > >>
> > >> I see all sorts of procedures to minimize spam ranking, including
> > >> opt-in and unsubscribe options.
> > >>
> > >> Apart from using a paid service (mail chimp, icontact, ....) what
> > >> do I do when sending from a gmail address?
> > >>
> > >>      Limit each batch to ___ addresses?
> > >>
> > >>      Other__________?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
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> > >> Leave only what is required for context.
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